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A quick review of the last 100 years of the "real world" and the horror that Liberalism, Communism, Socialism have put mankind through indicates the total failure of these political beliefs. You can't deny the facts. Conservatism has worked wherever it has been tried to a great deal of success. It's failure is small if any.
A quick review of the last 100 years of the "real world" and the horror that Liberalism, Communism, Socialism have put mankind through indicates the total failure of these political beliefs. You can't deny the facts. Conservatism has worked wherever it has been tried to a great deal of success. It's failure is small if any.
A quick review of the last 100 years of the "real world" and the horror that Liberalism, Communism, Socialism have put mankind through indicates the total failure of these political beliefs. You can't deny the facts. Conservatism has worked wherever it has been tried to a great deal of success. It's failure is small if any.
It's Communism that kills it's own people, the version of modern US conservatism is written for all to see in the Bill of Rights and Constitution, and Declaration of Independence, all of which liberals like Obama despise and dearly wish to "fundamentally change."
Which two of these are alike and which one is incongruous with the other two?
You see, you can't have corporations running the means of production and the government running the means of production at the same time.
~1932 Article by Mussolini and Gentile for Enciclopedia Italiana~
So the fascist state leaves a measure of freedom for the citizen - of course it does, hopefully enough to keep down rebellion. It's all a matter of degree. Even totalitarian states allow a measure of freedom out of necessity, but we still don't embrace them.
The article I posted is a discussion, not a statement, but Mussolini summed it up in his statement. Corporate fascism is basically corporate control of government - you want to quibble about this by bringing in parallels to socialism? We must address America as it stands today. Our current govt is far from being socialist - except in the mind of fear-mongering media conservatives who deem the countries of Europe as socialist.
If socialism is, as Fox believes, "anything government does" and socialism is always bad, why do we need it? Why not purge govt of all "socialism" as RW media suggests? According to the Ayn Rand RW in Congress, with govt out of the way, the "cream rises to the top" - meaning the wealthy. Where have we heard this stuff before? Oh yeah, Reagan and his conservative disciples. There's your plutocracy.
The question is how much corruptive corporate influence in government do we allow and what do contemporary conservatives think about it. The actions of congressional conservatives, mainly repubs, indicates that they are favoring corporations over the citizen by blocking all legislation put forth by dems which imposes unwanted regulation. Just for instance, Repubs still want to reward companies for outsourcing jobs. My point is, there is a contingent of conservatives in our govt today who embrace corporate control and influence - for their own enrichment. You deny this?
Oh and the "means of production" is not totally one or the other, govt or private, and the practices of various governments worldwide over the years is something to get bogged down in. Contemporary America is a special case of its own.
The "immorality of conservatism" goes beyond the mere RW view of corporations in govt - this is just one small part of a bigger picture which contains moral and religious components.
All we need is the various statements by conservatives over the years when they were smug in their control of the media. More to come.
It's Communism that kills it's own people, the version of modern US conservatism is written for all to see in the Bill of Rights and Constitution, and Declaration of Independence, all of which liberals like Obama despise and dearly wish to "fundamentally change."
And of course you are totally wrong, deluded, and desperate in your obeisance to RW media.
The conservative RW mentality responsible for the Constitution???
But then again, liberals have become fascists, so using those techniques is perfectly natural.
FALSE STATEMENT
In actuality, conservative ideologies more closely resemble fascism.
"Hostile to liberal democracy, socialism, and communism, fascist movements share certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism. Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation and asserts that stronger nations have the right to obtain land and resources by displacing weaker nations...Fascist movements emphasize a belligerent, virulent form of nationalism (chauvinism) and a distrust of foreigners (xenophobia), the latter closely linked to the ethnocentrism of many fascist movements."
They have even changed Jesus and the Bible to fit their ideology...
It's sick. This immorality and radicalization is what has driven me from conservatism.
Now here is a person who is growing and has found the path to enlightenment. Kudos to you for emerging from the enormous ignorance, backwardness, bigotry, and regression that Conservatives represent, to join us in modern times. You saved yourself from a wasted life. Welcome.
In actuality, conservative ideologies more closely resemble fascism.
"Hostile to liberal democracy, socialism, and communism, fascist movements share certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism. Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation and asserts that stronger nations have the right to obtain land and resources by displacing weaker nations...Fascist movements emphasize a belligerent, virulent form of nationalism (chauvinism) and a distrust of foreigners (xenophobia), the latter closely linked to the ethnocentrism of many fascist movements."
Fascist fought the "new" liberal thought which abandoned private property rights. In effect "new" liberalism was basically 20th century socialism with a new veneer.
What difference does it make who owns capital if the state is the all controlling power in the system?
So the fascist state leaves a measure of freedom for the citizen - of course it does, hopefully enough to keep down rebellion. It's all a matter of degree. Even totalitarian states allow a measure of freedom out of necessity, but we still don't embrace them.
The article I posted is a discussion, not a statement, but Mussolini summed it up in his statement. Corporate fascism is basically corporate control of government - you want to quibble about this by bringing in parallels to socialism? We must address America as it stands today. Our current govt is far from being socialist - except in the mind of fear-mongering media conservatives who deem the countries of Europe as socialist.
If socialism is, as Fox believes, "anything government does" and socialism is always bad, why do we need it? Why not purge govt of all "socialism" as RW media suggests? According to the Ayn Rand RW in Congress, with govt out of the way, the "cream rises to the top" - meaning the wealthy. Where have we heard this stuff before? Oh yeah, Reagan and his conservative disciples. There's your plutocracy.
The question is how much corruptive corporate influence in government do we allow and what do contemporary conservatives think about it. The actions of congressional conservatives, mainly repubs, indicates that they are favoring corporations over the citizen by blocking all legislation put forth by dems which imposes unwanted regulation. Just for instance, Repubs still want to reward companies for outsourcing jobs. My point is, there is a contingent of conservatives in our govt today who embrace corporate control and influence - for their own enrichment. You deny this?
Oh and the "means of production" is not totally one or the other, govt or private, and the practices of various governments worldwide over the years is something to get bogged down in. Contemporary America is a special case of its own.
The "immorality of conservatism" goes beyond the mere RW view of corporations in govt - this is just one small part of a bigger picture which contains moral and religious components.
All we need is the various statements by conservatives over the years when they were smug in their control of the media. More to come.
The quote you provided isn't sourced and has no relevance. The control from the state was absolute. That is incongruous with private property rights. It's incongruous with free markets, free people and capitalism. It's simply socialism with a capitalist veneer.
Until you understand the differences your ideals about what today's conservatism is and what fascism, socialism, et al are not important and have no bearing on political science.
Now here is a person who is growing and has found the path to enlightenment. Kudos to you for emerging from the enormous ignorance, backwardness, bigotry, and regression that Conservatives represent, to join us in modern times. You saved yourself from a wasted life. Welcome.
Thank you for demonstrating, once again, that liberals are the exact opposite of what they claim ("open-minded," "tolerant," "willing to listen and accept different opinions.").
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