Should we let Detroit die? (Iran, Israel, weapon, death)

[Saritaschihuahua]

Originally Posted by malamute

No -- you cannot blame conservatives for them. Hillary was a disciple of Saul Alinsky and she and Bill were definitely co-presidents.

I never understood this co-presidents assertion by right wingers with regard to President Clinton and his wife. What does that mean, precisely? Does it mean that if a spouse is intelligent and is married and having sex with someone who is some sort of leader, that spouse influences the leaders' decisions? I was married to a man who was the head of a non-governmental organization which had some influence in governmental decisions. We were married, we had sex, we talked in bed and out of it and discussed his job. Does that mean that I was equally in charge of that organization? Further, does that mean that leaders should take on empty-brained spouses so they will have nothing of value to contribute to the leader in a discussion?

[Saritaschihuahua]

Originally Posted by gunlover

Please tell us why carter deserved another term?

This came out of left field and I'm at a loss as to what it has to do with anything in this discussion. Care to elaborate?

[Packard fan]

Originally Posted by Saritaschihuahua

Oh come on now. Don't play dumb with me. You know as well as I do that the GOP engaged in the pillaging and disemboweling of American industry, destruction and export of jobs away from the U.S. because they promote corporations strip mining countries to enrich the rich, and of course, the screwing and exploiting of the working man, which thrills the GOP more than just about anything else. I'd wager it's actually arousing to some right wingers.

I hate it when people play dumb.

Uh; Obama has been the POTUS for over 4 years now. Truman when he was the POTUS said "the buck stops here".

[Saritaschihuahua]

Originally Posted by Packard fan

Uh; Obama has been the POTUS for over 4 years now. Truman when he was the POTUS said "the buck stops here".

Truman didn't have 33 years of right wing extremist f*kheads and 33 years of right wing extremist ideology in the country, and 33 years of right wing extremist Repukes to contend with digging in their heels as they have done for the past 33 years, only promoting sickening right wing ideas and refusing to allow anything that would benefit our country.

I swear I wish I could beam all right wingnuts (including Libertarians) up to that new galaxy discovered to be 12.9 billion light years away. It certainly would enable us to start the work of repairing this country and back out of all the damage done to it by right wing ideas over the past sickening 33 years.

[SpencerMtn]

If Detroit is anything like the customers on Hard Core Pawn, I say fence it in and napalm it.

[gunlover]

Originally Posted by Saritaschihuahua

This came out of left field and I'm at a loss as to what it has to do with anything in this discussion. Care to elaborate?

you said Ronald Reagan the stupid, so I take it you liked carter?

[gunlover]

Originally Posted by Saritaschihuahua

Truman didn't have 33 years of right wing extremist f*kheads and 33 years of right wing extremist ideology in the country, and 33 years of right wing extremist Repukes to contend with digging in their heels as they have done for the past 33 years, only promoting sickening right wing ideas and refusing to allow anything that would benefit our country.

I swear I wish I could beam all right wingnuts (including Libertarians) up to that new galaxy discovered to be 12.9 billion light years away. It certainly would enable us to start the work of repairing this country and back out of all the damage done to it by right wing ideas over the past sickening 33 years.

so when we dig in refuse to compromise it bad, but when you guys do it, its ok?

we have seen what you guys have dones since 1913, it is a failure on many many levels.

Woodrow Wilson who gave us
Prohibition.
1917 espionage act.
Segregation of the military.
The Federal Reserve bank.
The 16 Amendment that started the great looting of the wealth if the American people
The 17 Amendments that stolen the voice of the states in the federal government.
The Eugenics movement that would go on to inspired the Nazis,

If you don't believe me please Google it.
Let me google that for you
The truth has not agenda but the media and politicians do.

Or FDR who gave us
A Prolonged "Great Depression"
A slew of failed work programs that did nothing but created more debt
The Gold confiscation act of 1933 the rob the American people of the a vast majority of their wealth.
The National Firearms Act, which taxes so heavily the basic right of keep and bearing certain type of arms they become unaffordable to the common men.
Executive order 9066 which rounded up Americans of Japanese, Italian, and German ancestry.

How about LBS oh I mean LBJ who once said
“I'll have those ******s voting Democratic for the next 200 years. [Touting his underlying intentions for the "Great Society" programs, LBJ confided with two like-minded governors on Air Force One]”

The Great Society Act, which after spending 15 trillion dollars on welfare and entitlement programs, their is more poverty in America today then pre "Great Society Act"

Study: $15 trillion in welfare spending has had little impact since 1964 | Deseret News

Block the Civil Rights Acts of 1957.

Signed the Immigration and naturalization act of 1965, which changed our Immigration policies from favored educated and skilled workers to the 3rd world in order to import those who had Collectivistic of the democratic party, stacking the deck in their favor by importing people who "cast votes Americans don't want to cast", all the while screaming racist at the top of their lungs. such an act has cause massive changes in this nation, none for the better, driving down wages, turning away skilled labor, race base immigration quotes, importing people with view antithetical and harmful to the American way of life and system of government.

Signed the Gun Control Act of 1968, which just like the National Firearms Act of 1934, did nothing to pervert crime, just made it hard for Americans to excise to the right to keep and bear arms, infringing upon this right, using the assassinations of JFK, his brother bobby Kennedy and Martian Luther King JR as and excuse to limit the right's of the American people. all of the weapons used to assassinate those men were legality bought before hand.

Executive order 11110 which removed sliver for the American money supply, which in part allow the Statist to fund the welfare programs the fueled the growth of the massive entitlement class, which will vote for anyone who can and will give them more of someone else money.

The same party that Banned the new manufacture of the Machine guns to law abiding citizens via the Hughes Amendment to the Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986, an amendment that was voted on and lost to a voice voted, and yet was not counted, and their for illegality added to the final bill.

You are not the party of freedom or liberty. you are the party of tyranny and oppression, all the while hiding behind the false guises and obstification.

[tinman01]

Originally Posted by Saritaschihuahua

Oh come on now. Don't play dumb with me. You know as well as I do that the GOP engaged in the pillaging and disemboweling of American industry, destruction and export of jobs away from the U.S. because they promote corporations strip mining countries to enrich the rich, and of course, the screwing and exploiting of the working man, which thrills the GOP more than just about anything else. I'd wager it's actually arousing to some right wingers.

I hate it when people play dumb.

My god you are blinded by your partisan beliefs. You see nothing to fault in the dems. You fail to see they hold an equal hand in the failings of this great nation. You blame only 1 side in a problem owned by both.
It is either that you are playing dumb or are completely fooled as many are. The DEM's and the GOP are the same wolf. It is only their rhetoric that is different.

[tinman01]

Originally Posted by Saritaschihuahua

Truman didn't have 33 years of right wing extremist f*kheads and 33 years of right wing extremist ideology in the country, and 33 years of right wing extremist Repukes to contend with digging in their heels as they have done for the past 33 years, only promoting sickening right wing ideas and refusing to allow anything that would benefit our country.

I swear I wish I could beam all right wingnuts (including Libertarians) up to that new galaxy discovered to be 12.9 billion light years away. It certainly would enable us to start the work of repairing this country and back out of all the damage done to it by right wing ideas over the past sickening 33 years.

People like you who make excuses for their own are why change can never happen.
Tell me do you fault Charlie Rangal for his Tax Evasion? He helped to write the codes in a tax system that is by design top heavy and inefficient.
Do you fault Frank and Dodd for their part in the banking collapse? some how I am sure you will find an excuse for them.
Bill Clinton. It was under him that the banking industry was deregulated. Under him that banks were also expected to make unsecured loans to people with bad credit. Both parties were at that bloodiest not just 1.
Both parties have 1 thing in common. They enjoy the support of their hardliners. No sin is to great to forgive right?
Look at the DEM's in Luzerne County Pa. Kids for cots scandal. Those judges were all DEM's.

[Packard fan]

Originally Posted by Saritaschihuahua

Truman didn't have 33 years of right wing extremist f*kheads and 33 years of right wing extremist ideology in the country, and 33 years of right wing extremist Repukes to contend with digging in their heels as they have done for the past 33 years, only promoting sickening right wing ideas and refusing to allow anything that would benefit our country.

I swear I wish I could beam all right wingnuts (including Libertarians) up to that new galaxy discovered to be 12.9 billion light years away. It certainly would enable us to start the work of repairing this country and back out of all the damage done to it by right wing ideas over the past sickening 33 years.

Take the extreme left wingers with you; they're NO better.