Pope Francis on Gays: Who am I to Judge? (Hispanic, religion, kids)

[tillman7]

When one chose a position of biblical responsibility and authority, the way he feels about something must always be filtered through the scriptures. The responsibility is to preach, teach, and exemplify righteousness according to the scriptures. The pope takes an oath to do so.

Since I am heterosexual, I have no personal information as to whether or not being homosexual is intrinsic. I do have what the scriptures say about various types of sexuality and I have taken an oath to preach, teach, and exemplify them in righteousness according to the scriptures whether I agree with them intrinsically or not.

[Goodfella2]

Originally Posted by Jaymax

Your heterosexuality is part of who you are, how your brain is wired- how you think and feel and love, how you see other people and yourself. It wouldn't matter whether you ever had sex or not, your heterosexuality is intrinsic. It's no different for homosexuals.

So what you say makes no sense to me.

Let me try it this way: when one choses a position of biblical responsibility and authority, the way he feels about something must always be filtered through the scriptures. The responsibility is to preach, teach, and exemplify righteousness according to the scriptures. The pope takes an oath to do so.

Since I am heterosexual, I have no personal information as to whether or not being homosexual is instrinsic. I do have what the scriptures say about various types of sexuality and I have taken an oath to preach, teach, and exemplify them in righteousness according to the scriptures whether I agree with them intrinsically or not.

[Goodfella2]

The bible is clear about lying being wrong, cheating being wrong, stealing being wrong, murder being wrong, AND yes, homosexuality being wrong. It's ALL sin. So when we as Christians agree with scripture and say gays are wrong / sin, what's the big deal?

BTW even though sins carry the same eternal punishment for non-Christians (hell) I don't think the bible teaches that each sin is exactly the same for believers. Or at least the earthly consequences for each sin is not the same. Some sins will give you a slap on the wrist, while others will send you to prison for life, or give you an STD & kill you in 1 year, etc... Big differences.

[carterstamp]

I think it's a breath of fresh air coming from the Vatican (for once).

[Raena77]

Originally Posted by carterstamp

I think it's a breath of fresh air coming from the Vatican (for once).

I agree. Considering the Catholic organization is a train wreck. Usually they preach no gays but had men touching defensive little boys.

[Don Draper]

Originally Posted by carterstamp

No, of course not, but it's a start.

The Pope is more progressive than the tea party.

Man, that is crazy

[hawkeye2009]

Originally Posted by carterstamp

Indeed, who is anyone to judge? Kudos to the Pontiff. People ask "what would Jesus do?" well, here's a hint:

Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?' – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

"When I meet a gay person, I have to distinguish between their being gay and being part of a lobby. If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn't be marginalized. The tendency (to homosexuality) is not the problem ... they're our brothers."

I agree with the Pope. I can't picture Christ as a gay basher. Heck, I would bet half of our Catholic priests are probably gay.

[CK78]

This guy is not a pope.

There has not been a reigning Roman Catholic Pope since October of 1958.

[weltschmerz]

Originally Posted by Goodfella2

The bible is clear about lying being wrong, cheating being wrong, stealing being wrong, murder being wrong, AND yes, homosexuality being wrong. It's ALL sin. So when we as Christians agree with scripture and say gays are wrong / sin, what's the big deal?

BTW even though sins carry the same eternal punishment for non-Christians (hell) I don't think the bible teaches that each sin is exactly the same for believers. Or at least the earthly consequences for each sin is not the same. Some sins will give you a slap on the wrist, while others will send you to prison for life, or give you an STD & kill you in 1 year, etc... Big differences.

Here's the thing, though. The murder, stealing and adultery rules are so important, they were made into Commandments. I don't remember "Thou shalt not be a homosexual" on the tablets, although Moses may have dropped one and didn't tell anyone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAtRCJIqnk

[Fiddlehead]

I was happy to hear it. Jesus would have probably said the same thing.

But I suspect that many of the Catholic bigots will be furious.