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Old 08-01-2013, 06:59 PM
 
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It's important to understand the difference between "CIA" and contractors who work for the "CIA". A lot of the "contractors" like both the former Seals that were killed - are X-special forces types that have "retired" from the Military and go into these hot spots as contractors for the Government. They don't have a pension, they don't last that long in the Special Op's business. They all know each other, they all talk to each other .... that's why I knew this stuff could never be kept "secret". They have a pretty active on-line community and discuss this a lot.

Benghazi wasn't just that people died - they go into dangerous areas (State, CIA & Contractors) - they know the risks.
Benghazi was all about how the Government ignored all the warning signs, they panicked after the attack & didn't respond, they put politics and an Election ahead of an Attack on a US Facility, they LIED about it, they tried to COVER it up and then they Stonewalled, hoping that everyone would just forget it in our age of short attention span and era of American Idol. Careers were destroyed over Benghazi in the cover-up, people died that might not have died and the USA lost a lot of credibility over the entire mess. The people might forget (they do have short attention spans), the Politicians might forget (they tend to think of themselves) - But the Special Forces and Military will NOT forget. They never forgot John Kerry after Vietnam, they won't forget Benghazi, the fall out or those responsible.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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In November, 2012 the WSJ did a story that stated the obvious, the U.S. mission in Benghazi "was at its heart a CIA operation."

The Secret CIA Mission In Benghazi - Business Insider
Your link is to BusinessInsider, not Wall Street Journal.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Why did Chris Stevens die?
I DK.

I DK why 4500 were allowed to die in the Iraq War, 2001-present.
I DK why 70,000 were allowed to die in Afghanistan, 2001-present.

Why is Chris Stevens' life more important than the other 75,000?

Does anyone really believe that the 4 people who died in Benghazi were not fully aware of the risks of whatever it was they were doing there?
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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Yeah... Except that Iran-Contra was an ILLEGAL operation by the Reagan Admin designed to circumvent Congressional funding restrictions, to keep us from getting involved in a civil war in SA.

The only two things these ops have in common ( so far) is they are both secret...
this case is IDENTICAL
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's important to understand the difference between "CIA" and contractors who work for the "CIA". A lot of the "contractors" like both the former Seals that were killed - are X-special forces types that have "retired" from the Military and go into these hot spots as contractors for the Government. They don't have a pension, they don't last that long in the Special Op's business. They all know each other, they all talk to each other .... that's why I knew this stuff could never be kept "secret". They have a pretty active on-line community and discuss this a lot.

Benghazi wasn't just that people died - they go into dangerous areas (State, CIA & Contractors) - they know the risks.
Benghazi was all about how the Government ignored all the warning signs, they panicked after the attack & didn't respond, they put politics and an Election ahead of an Attack on a US Facility, they LIED about it, they tried to COVER it up and then they Stonewalled, hoping that everyone would just forget it in our age of short attention span and era of American Idol. Careers were destroyed over Benghazi in the cover-up, people died that might not have died and the USA lost a lot of credibility over the entire mess. The people might forget (they do have short attention spans), the Politicians might forget (they tend to think of themselves) - But the Special Forces and Military will NOT forget. They never forgot John Kerry after Vietnam, they won't forget Benghazi, the fall out or those responsible.
And those are just the ones that hit the press. I imagine even more got shafted that we don't know about.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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There was more details to Benghazi that we will never know because it was a CIA operation, they put themselves in a dangerous situation. This was not your typical embassy.
Did people think this "Diplomatic Mission" existed to reissue lost passports to American tourists who lost their passports while sipping tea in their hotel lobby?
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:10 PM
 
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I was called anti-American and a terrorist lover because I said I believed the President of Libya over Rice that Sunday.
Oh yea, Obama lovers bounced off the wall when we said the President of Libya was more believable. The president of Libya took a chance in telling the truth and Obama and Hillary threw him under the bus. They have a tendency to do that and the world knows it. Look what Obama did to help the doctor who helped the U.S. find Bin Laden. Nothing, absolutely nothing, he still rots in jail for helping Obama.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:11 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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I called it !!!

Where do I go to pick up my prize ?
So did I! It made alot more sense that they were involved since the ambasador was well respected amongst the people of that country.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:11 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I DK.

I DK why 4500 were allowed to die in the Iraq War, 2001-present.
I DK why 70,000 were allowed to die in Afghanistan, 2001-present.

Why is Chris Stevens' life more important than the other 75,000?

Does anyone really believe that the 4 people who died in Benghazi were not fully aware of the risks of whatever it was they were doing there?
I DK why you are posting about the last decade
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:12 PM
 
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Well at least it wasn't to enemies of the US or bribing terrorists for the release of hostages. Maybe we should have just let history take it's course in Libya and let the Gaddafi regime rule for the next millennium instead of making a minor donation to the cause.
Said the defenders of Bush and Iraq.

Truthfully we have no idea what all they did yet.
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