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Old 08-06-2013, 05:23 PM
 
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It's their prerogative to pull the shirt out of stock.

That said, it still doesn't change the fact that much fewer girls/women pursue disciplines heavy in mathematics and logic.

And in the modern context, the excuse that girls/women are necessarily discouraged from pursuing such in schools is fallacious.
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:29 PM
 
Location: WA
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It's their prerogative to pull the shirt out of stock.

That said, it still doesn't change the fact that much fewer girls/women pursue disciplines heavy in mathematics and logic.

And in the modern context, the excuse that girls/women are necessarily discouraged from pursuing such in schools is fallacious.
Fallacious how?
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:33 PM
 
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Fallacious how?
As per what I said. IOWs, Argumentum ad antiquitatem.
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:42 PM
 
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As per what I said. IOWs, Argumentum ad antiquitatem.
Ok, first, yay for you for passing your Logic course. I hope you do well in Philosophy 201 next semester. Now tell me why you don't think attitudes like the one displayed on that shirt could possibly discourage girls from being interested in mathematics.
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:46 PM
 
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Ok, first, yay for you for passing your Logic course. I hope you do well in Philosophy 201 next semester. Now tell me why you don't think attitudes like the one displayed on that shirt could possibly discourage girls from being interested in mathematics.
Weak, trollish response.

And that's not what I said. Reading is fundamental; Try it sometime.
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Did anyone else catch the following line from the article:

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Another wrote, “I am a high school teacher and see how these ideas really effect some student’s confidence.
For some reason I found the misuse of effect vs. affect by a person claiming to be a high school teacher rather amusing.

As for the shirt issue, all I can say is spare me from stupidity. As someone who designs t-shirts (one of my designs states "Magic + Math = Three things I can't do"), people really need to get a grip on their sense of outrage.

Most t-shirt designs are meant to be a joke, as this one apparently is. Anyone who actually believes that something printed on a t-shirt is going to influence their child's ability to perform well in school is delusional and/or has a very low sense of confidence in their ability to raise their child.

Both of my daughters have t-shirts that say "I'm a princess" on them. However, neither of my daughters actually believes that they are royalty. In other words, my 6 and 8 year old have a better grasp on reality than anyone who is complaining about this t-shirt design.
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:57 PM
 
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Weak, trollish response.

And that's not what I said. Reading is fundamental; Try it sometime.
Weak, condescending response.

Why do YOU think that "the excuse that girls/women are necessarily discouraged from pursuing such in schools is fallacious." I want you to explain your position. I am interested in what you actually have to say. Some people might even take that as a compliment.
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Old 08-06-2013, 05:59 PM
 
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Did anyone else catch the following line from the article:



For some reason I found the misuse of effect vs. affect by a person claiming to be a high school teacher rather amusing.

As for the shirt issue, all I can say is spare me from stupidity. As someone who designs t-shirts (one of my designs states "Magic + Math = Three things I can't do"), people really need to get a grip on their sense of outrage.

Most t-shirt designs are meant to be a joke, as this one apparently is. Anyone who actually believes that something printed on a t-shirt is going to influence their child's ability to perform well in school is delusional and/or has a very low sense of confidence in their ability to raise their child.

Both of my daughters have t-shirts that say "I'm a princess" on them. However, neither of my daughters actually believes that they are royalty. In other words, my 6 and 8 year old have a better grasp on reality than anyone who is complaining about this t-shirt design.
Do you design these shirts specifically for elementary aged girls?
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:01 PM
 
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Weak, condescending response.

Why do YOU think that "the excuse that girls/women are necessarily discouraged from pursuing such in schools is fallacious." I want you to explain your position. I am interested in what you actually have to say. Some people might even take that as a compliment.
You've confirmed the troll suspicion.
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Old 08-06-2013, 06:04 PM
 
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And in the modern context, the excuse that girls/women are necessarily discouraged from pursuing such in schools is fallacious.
The garment in the article doesn't count as discouragement?
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