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Psychology: The last bastion of those who don't want to deal with reality. Also known as the 'medical' discipline that invented such wonderful excuses for doping your kids as ADD and ADHD.
Sorry, but the idea that a t-shirt making a joke about not being able to do math is going to have a permanent effect on someone's ability to excel in the subject falls into the same category as the idea that putting a boy in a pink shirt is going to make him gay. Both are nothing but fertilizer.
Apples to oranges. A pink shirt without print on it implies nothing about the wearer's sexuality. Cutting a girl's hair too short is not the same as pasting a giant billboard on her chest with the words "Look, I'm a lesbian" on it. This shirt has the obvious message that the girl wearing it is good at shopping but not at math. What kind of parent would buy that for their child?
Ask your daughter instead: "What would you say if your parents bought you a shirt that said that you were not good at math?"
Are you really arguing that girls are so weak and manipulative that they would allow a t-shirt to control their lives?
Are you really arguing that girls are so weak and manipulative that they would allow a t-shirt to control their lives?
That's exactly what Liberals are saying, indeed. They're saying that girls and women are too stupid to discern the difference between reality and a silly t-shirt. Sorta like how Liberals imply that AAs are so stupid that without Affirmative Action, they'd never be able to get a job.
I don't know of any elementary aged girls that do their own shopping. As for who I design these shirts for, I put together designs that I like and sell t-shirts with those designs on them. If a parent (you know, the people who actually buy the clothes for elementary aged girls) wants to purchase one of my designs for their daughter, I'm not about to deny them the option.
Overall, it's a bad business decision. I'd be willing to place odds on there being a larger number of people who found the design amusing than the vocal minority who feel that it is "sexist."
You've never been shopping with an elementary school girl, then. They can get quite insistent!
You've never been shopping with an elementary school girl, then. They can get quite insistent!
That T-shirt sucks!
Pffft! I've got 2 girls in elementary school and since I work from home I'm the one that does the majority of their shopping with them. They can be as insistent as they want, but if I don't think they should have something they don't get it. Period.
It's really simple, if you are the parent you control what the child wears. If you can't put your foot down on that simple matter, and feel that an elementary aged girl is too insistent for you to be able to say no, then you shouldn't be a parent.
Fine, take my dispute with psychology out of the equation. Still doesn't change the fact that people are claiming a t-shirt will make or break a girl's ability to achieve high scores in math. Let's take this idea and change it around a little. We'll see how much sense it makes in a different context.
Would either of you agree that the following are true?
Dressing a boy in pink will make him gay.
Cutting a girl's hair too short will make her a lesbian.
If you don't agree with the above sentences, there is absolutely no reason to believe that this t-shirt would cause a girl to be unable to excel at math.
On a side note, I asked my 8-year-old the following question today: What would you say if someone told you that girls can't do math?
She answered: I'd say they don't know what they are talking about, because I'm awesome at math.
maybe if only gay men wore pink or only lesbian women wore short hair cuts, but that is not the case.
maybe if only gay men wore pink or only lesbian women wore short hair cuts, but that is not the case.
Ahhh, but both are stereotypes that have been around for decades. Why are those stereotypes less important than the girls and math stereotype? All three are false, yet you only seem to have a problem with the one depicted on the shirt. Why is that?
Ahhh, but both are stereotypes that have been around for decades. Why are those stereotypes less important than the girls and math stereotype? All three are false, yet you only seem to have a problem with the one depicted on the shirt. Why is that?
they are not stereotypes, especially women with short hair cuts. I could list several high profile heterosexual women who were known for wearing short hairstyles and are not accused of being lesbians.
they are not stereotypes, especially women with short hair cuts. I could list several high profile heterosexual women who were known for wearing short hairstyles and are not accused of being lesbians.
No kidding? Heterosexual women wear short hair? Who'd a thunk it? That was my point, genius.
Stereotypes are beliefs held by a large number of people that may or may not be true. For years, people thought that short hair on a woman meant she was "manly" and therefore had to be a lesbian. For years, men wouldn't allow their sons to wear pink because it might make them seem "feminine" and therefore encourage them to be gay.
Short hair doesn't make a woman a lesbian, pink doesn't make a boy gay, and wearing a shirt that jokes about being bad at math doesn't make a girl bad at math.
they are not stereotypes, especially women with short hair cuts. I could list several high profile heterosexual women who were known for wearing short hairstyles and are not accused of being lesbians.
Lesbians drive Subarus is a stereotype. If a female is driving a Subaru does she get accused of being a Lesbian...no. You missed your marker on that one, lol.
Again, JimRom is right on target.
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