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Old 08-07-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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MSNBC is a benchmark of intelligence? That's a joke, right?
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so because she added some levity to her show, she is dumb? no. we could post dozens of clips here of Fox talking Barbies saying ridiculous things and being owned by their own guests.
Inane to try and defend that. But then again, in ratings numbers MSNBC is in last place, so that means there are still a few imbeciles around who watch it.
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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IDK, I think it's a lot of little things, like this shirt, their mothers buying them things like this shirt, television, etc that teach them to be bubble heads.
Based on that inane logic, kids whose parents buy them flannel shirts become lumberjacks or grunge band members, right? Kids whose parents allow them to watch NASCAR become speeders, right?

Doh!
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:17 PM
 
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Based on that inane logic, kids whose parents buy them flannel shirts become lumberjacks or grunge band members, right? Kids whose parents allow them to watch NASCAR become speeders, right?

Doh!
Kids who live in a household with a lot of books tend to do better in school

Something tells me the parents of these kids don't read a lot, at least books, maybe tabloid magazines.
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:38 PM
 
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Inane to try and defend that. But then again, in ratings numbers MSNBC is in last place, so that means there are still a few imbeciles around who watch it.
why is it "inane to try TO defend that"? you make a lot of statements that you can't seem to explain.
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:41 PM
 
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Based on that inane logic, kids whose parents buy them flannel shirts become lumberjacks or grunge band members, right? Kids whose parents allow them to watch NASCAR become speeders, right?

Doh!
how so? please explain how that is the same thing. is there a stereotype in our society that only lumber jacks wear flannel or nascar makes you speed? please no one liners that lack substance. I think we've gotten enough of those from you here.
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Old 08-07-2013, 03:57 PM
 
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how so? please explain how that is the same thing. is there a stereotype in our society that only lumber jacks wear flannel or nascar makes you speed? please no one liners that lack substance. I think we've gotten enough of those from you here.
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IDK, I think it's a lot of little things, like this shirt, their mothers buying them things like this shirt, television, etc that teach them to be bubble heads.
As the response was to your earlier statement, I think it would be incumbent on you to cite your sources about how a shirt would teach a child to be a bubble head. Left-wing blogs do not suffice, either.
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:07 PM
 
Location: WA
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As the response was to your earlier statement, I think it would be incumbent on you to cite your sources about how a shirt would teach a child to be a bubble head. Left-wing blogs do not suffice, either.
Davies, P. G.; S. J. Spencer; D. M. Quinn; and R. Gerhardstein. "Consuming Images: How Television Commercials that Elicit Stereotype Threat Can Restrain Women Academically and Professionally." Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin (2002).

Keller, Johannes, and Dirk Dauenheimer. "Stereotype threat in the classroom: Dejection mediates the disrupting threat effect on women’s math performance." Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin 29.3 (2003): 371-381.

Muzzatti, Barbara, and Franca Agnoli. "Gender and mathematics: attitudes and stereotype threat susceptibility in Italian children." Developmental Psychology 43.3 (2007): 747.

Pronin, E.; C. M. Steele; and L. Ross. "Identity Bifurcation in Response to Stereotype Threat: Women and Mathematics." Journal of Experimental Social Psychology (2003)

Quinn, Diane M., and Steven J. Spencer. "The interference of stereotype threat with women's generation of mathematical problem‐solving strategies." Journal of Social Issues 57.1 (2001): 55-71.

Spencer, S. J.; C. M. Steele; and D. M. Quinn. "Stereotype Threat and Women's Math Performance." Journal of Experimental Social Psychology (1999).

Steele, C. M. "A Threat in the Air: How Stereotypes Shape Intellectual Identity and Performance." American Psychologist (1997).
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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Davies, P. G.; S. J. Spencer; D. M. Quinn; and R. Gerhardstein. "Consuming Images: How Television Commercials that Elicit Stereotype Threat Can Restrain Women Academically and Professionally." Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin (2002).

Keller, Johannes, and Dirk Dauenheimer. "Stereotype threat in the classroom: Dejection mediates the disrupting threat effect on women’s math performance." Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin 29.3 (2003): 371-381.

Muzzatti, Barbara, and Franca Agnoli. "Gender and mathematics: attitudes and stereotype threat susceptibility in Italian children." Developmental Psychology 43.3 (2007): 747.

Pronin, E.; C. M. Steele; and L. Ross. "Identity Bifurcation in Response to Stereotype Threat: Women and Mathematics." Journal of Experimental Social Psychology (2003)

Quinn, Diane M., and Steven J. Spencer. "The interference of stereotype threat with women's generation of mathematical problem‐solving strategies." Journal of Social Issues 57.1 (2001): 55-71.

Spencer, S. J.; C. M. Steele; and D. M. Quinn. "Stereotype Threat and Women's Math Performance." Journal of Experimental Social Psychology (1999).

Steele, C. M. "A Threat in the Air: How Stereotypes Shape Intellectual Identity and Performance." American Psychologist (1997).
None of these reference t-shirts. Nice try. #FAIL.
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:38 PM
 
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As the response was to your earlier statement, I think it would be incumbent on you to cite your sources about how a shirt would teach a child to be a bubble head. Left-wing blogs do not suffice, either.
Cvencek, Dario, Andrew N. Meltzoff, and Anthony G. Greenwald. "Math–gender stereotypes in elementary school children." Child development 82.3 (2011): 766-779.


Eccles, Jacquelynne S., Janis E. Jacobs, and Rena D. Harold. "Gender role stereotypes, expectancy effects, and parents' socialization of gender differences." Journal of Social Issues 46.2 (1990): 183-201.


Good, Catherine, Joshua Aronson, and Jayne Ann Harder. "Problems in the pipeline: Stereotype threat and women's achievement in high-level math courses." Journal of Applied Developmental Psychology 29.1 (2008): 17-28.

Jacobs, Janis E. "Influence of gender stereotypes on parent and child mathematics attitudes." Journal of Educational Psychology 83.4 (1991): 518.

Nosek, Brian A., et al. "National differences in gender–science stereotypes predict national sex differences in science and math achievement." Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 106.26 (2009): 10593-10597.

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Tiedemann, Joachim. "Parents' gender stereotypes and teachers' beliefs as predictors of children's concept of their mathematical ability in elementary school." Journal of Educational Psychology 92.1 (2000): 144.
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Old 08-07-2013, 04:40 PM
 
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None of these reference t-shirts. Nice try. #FAIL.
The t-shirt reinforces a stereotype. Each one of those articles is about how stereotypes affect mathematics performance and motivation.
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