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View Poll Results: Intelligent Design?
Yes, teach it along with Evolution 22 15.28%
No, teach only Evolution 121 84.03%
No, teach only Intelligent Design 1 0.69%
Voters: 144. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-24-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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What falsifiable predictions does intelligent design make? None. It's not a scientific theory because it lacks the fundamental characteristics of what makes something a scientific theory. It explains nothing, is not testable, is supported by precisely zero evidence, has zero predictive power, and is not falsifiable. That makes it not only not a scientific theory, but not even a scientific hypothesis.
I'm familiar with this criteria of falsifiability, but to apply it across the board to what is currently considered mainstream science would reduce the volume of scientific textbooks by 80%. The Bib Bang Theory being one victim I can think of off the top of my head. The theory of relativity being another that contains loads of unfalsifiable claims sub-theories and hypothesis. The statement "pigs can't fly" is not falsifiable, since one would have to capture a flying pig to falsify it, but I think the statement is nonetheless worthy of being considered a reasonably sound hypothesis.

Your confusion here is a product of being taught arcane philosophical constructs, while the educational system teaching you this crap also works diligently to make sure you never learn how to think. I don't hold you at fault for that ... but the misplaced arrogance that tags along is annoyingly sad.

Just to prove a point at your expense, Evolution Theory is not falsifiable either. This criteria that must be met in order to be considered a valid scientific theory is conspicuously absent in the Theory of Evolution which claims that all things evolved from a single source ancestor billions of years ago cannot be tested, nor can it be falsified. To falsify it, one would have to be capable of traveling back in time billions of years to capture evidence that more than one source was responsible for all of the species, disproving, or falsifying the claim of only one common ancestor. The claim cannot be proven or tested either.

So, congratulations .... you have just rendered the theory of evolution to be nothing more than what I've been calling it for decades .... the most unscientific hogwash ever accepted as science in all of modern human history. Good Job!

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Old 08-24-2013, 05:09 PM
 
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Hmm... So, you're saying you're not a creationist, and yet you believe that God created life and humans?
If evolution is fact, proven and verified, when have they created a human from an ape in a lab, or a zoo, or on Plum island? Can I see that link please?
Surely this would be in an instruction manual for these children you are "educating".

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Old 08-24-2013, 05:10 PM
 
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Hmm... So, you're saying you're not a creationist, and yet you believe that God created life and humans?
OK ... we've now determined that you can read ... now, show me where I have EVER said that God created life and humans?
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:19 PM
 
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If evolution is fact, proven and verified, when have they created a human from an ape in a lab, or a zoo, or on Plum island? Can I see that link please?
Surely this would be an instruction manual for these children you are "educating".
There was no "ape to man" evolution....there was, supposedly, a common ancestor. And it makes perfectly logical sense...they have found these genetic drifts in tons of other lifeforms.

But there is no "smoking gun" yet in regards to the missing link. They are trying to present "Ida" as "it" and based on the overwhelming evidence supporting evolution....you are expected to just believe it's the end all, be all.
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:32 PM
 
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If evolution is fact, proven and verified, when have they created a human from an ape in a lab, or a zoo, or on Plum island? Can I see that link please?
Surely this would be an instruction manual for these children you are "educating".
OK, sit back and wait about 20 million years. You'll see evolution in action.
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:33 PM
 
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Why do believers in the idea of Intelligent Design ignore all the Un-Intelligent designs in nature, especially in humans?
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Offering you the benefit of doubt, I will assume that this simpleton view of the matter is purely rhetorical, though doubt nevertheless does persist. Of course, the many examples of unintelligent behavior ... particularly with regard to humans who are supposed to represent the highest and most evolved species, only presents a certain tongue in cheek challenge to intelligent design if you ignore the more illuminating complexity of the basic structure of biological life at the cellular level, and focus on mental disfunction instead. I could similarly argue that such unintelligent human behavior presents as much evidence against the theory of evolution, if one should error in linking complexity with intelligence as you attempt to do.
blah blah blah....
Not rhetorical or tongue in cheek at all.

Where did I say unintelligent human behavior? I was clearly referring to evidence of 'unintelligent' design in the human body. eg the retina.

That you created such a silly straw man to knock down was not particularly intelligent of you.
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:36 PM
 
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Evolution is the science of change in life once life has already begun to exist. The origin of life and DNA is not evolution but abiogenesis.

Many of the components of RNA and DNA, such as amino acids, have been discovered in meteorites that have impacted on earth. Recently, astronomers have discovered glycolaldehyde - a sugar molecule that is required to form RNA - in a distant star.

In other words, the building blocks of life likely pre-existed in space and made their way to earth by impacts of meteorites and comets billions of years ago. If you want to learn more about this, then read up on RNA world hypothesis.
For those who can't imagine life starting without an unexplainable magical being involved, this might help:


3 - The Origin of Life Made Easy - YouTube
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:41 PM
 
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For those who can't imagine life starting without an unexplainable magical being involved, this might help:


3 - The Origin of Life Made Easy - YouTube
Want to ignore it again?

New research rejects 80-year theory of 'primordial soup' as the origin of life
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:42 PM
 
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hybrids. Don't you ever watch the History channel or Discovery? It's a theory just like evolution is a theory.
Can you explain this 'theory' of 'alien hybrids'?

How does it explain the diversity of life on earth?
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:48 PM
 
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OK ... we've now determined that you can read ... now, show me where I have EVER said that God created life and humans?
You made it quite clear that you reject evolution.

So, what explanation do you believe about the origins of life and humans?
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