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Old 08-22-2013, 02:51 PM
 
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Let me ask this, when you pay taxes does that revenue go in part toward paying for an Aircraft Carrier built 5 years ago?
so your economic policy is "continue the idiotic spending that destroyed the dollar." I nominate you to be secretary of the treasury. you obviously know what you're doing.

guess you don't learn from your mistakes. must make for a long life of misery.
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Old 08-22-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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College students study an average of 15 hours/week today, compared to 24 hours per week 50 years ago. It isn't about cost, it is about people simply not putting the time in to learn the material. Students spend an average of 15 hours/week in class, meaning they only spend 30 hours/week learning while in college. The average american spends 34 hours/week watching TV. When a person is watching TV more than studying, they will absolutely have a decent chance of failing. No wonder we can't compete.


Is college too easy? As study time falls, debate rises. - Washington Post
Every college student I know -- which is plenty, because I have two of my own -- has at least one job, usually more. They are all involved in volunteering or unpaid internships too. Getting work experience is part of the college experience now, unlike the 1950s.

My daughter actually has a TV ... that she hasn't hooked up in two years.
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Old 08-22-2013, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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so your economic policy is "continue the idiotic spending that destroyed the dollar." I nominate you to be secretary of the treasury. you obviously know what you're doing.

guess you don't learn from your mistakes. must make for a long life of misery.
Destroyed the dollar .... really? Hmmmm...

What Is the Value of the US Dollar

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Old 08-22-2013, 04:30 PM
 
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Load those young O voters up with debt.

Let the IRS attach their wages.
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Old 08-22-2013, 05:11 PM
 
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Destroyed the dollar .... really? Hmmmm...

What Is the Value of the US Dollar

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you love $5 gas, and $6 gallons of milk huh. cows didn't join unions ya know.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:14 AM
 
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Every college student I know -- which is plenty, because I have two of my own -- has at least one job, usually more. They are all involved in volunteering or unpaid internships too. Getting work experience is part of the college experience now, unlike the 1950s.

My daughter actually has a TV ... that she hasn't hooked up in two years.
Your daughter's TV habits are a fairly poor argument against national averages. Also, students had jobs 50 years ago as well. Are you honestly defending students for studying less now than ever before in this country's history?
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Your daughter's TV habits are a fairly poor argument against national averages. Also, students had jobs 50 years ago as well. Are you honestly defending students for studying less now than ever before in this country's history?
There's an excuse for everything wrong in America.
Meanwhile we continue to decline in OECD standings.

Americans can't afford to live in America anymore on their salaries.
They need government handouts and subsidies.
And the more subsidies they get the louder they cheer.

And people think this is good news ?
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:26 AM
 
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Your daughter's TV habits are a fairly poor argument against national averages. Also, students had jobs 50 years ago as well. Are you honestly defending students for studying less now than ever before in this country's history?
I am saying that these broad-brush attacks on students are nonsense. And no one in my parents' college classes 50 years ago had jobs (I just asked them -- and their class was a large one at a major state university), so that's an other baseless assumption you're making.

I am also saying that college is no longer ALL about studying. It's about life experience, such as volunteering, working and interning. That's what employers want, in case you hadn't noticed. They don't WANT kids who spent four years with their noses in books. Heck, even colleges don't want students who spent their high school years with their noses in books. Ask any college admissions counselor.

I take it you're elderly? Everything was "better" in the good old days?
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:31 AM
 
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I am saying that these broad-brush attacks on students are nonsense. And no one in my parents' college classes 50 years ago had jobs (I just asked them -- and their class was a large one at a major state university), so that's an other baseless assumption you're making.

I am also saying that college is no longer ALL about studying. It's about life experience, such as volunteering, working and interning. That's what employers want, in case you hadn't noticed. They don't WANT kids who spent four years with their noses in books. Heck, even colleges don't want students who spent their high school years with their noses in books. Ask any college admissions counselor.

I take it you're elderly? Everything was "better" in the good old days?
I am 27 years old. Stop using personal experiences as your 'rules' for how everything will act. Your daughter's TV habits or your parent's college experience is an extremely poor way to set a rule for everyone. National statistics disagree with you. Are there exceptions? Obviously, but you do know what national averages mean, don't you?

College isn't about the 'life experience'. It is about preparing a student for the real world. Students need to have less 'life experience' (which is a code word for relaxing and having fun) and spend more time and effort studying and working. Employers want candidates who are prepared for the job. When I am hiring someone, I want someone who has knowledge and skills that they can use at my workplace. I couldn't care less what 'life experience' they got.

The more we have had students focus on the 'life experience' of college and less on the studying and education, the farther this nation has slipped in education rankings globally, and the more students do not graduate. You call that a good thing?
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I am saying that these broad-brush attacks on students are nonsense. And no one in my parents' college classes 50 years ago had jobs (I just asked them -- and their class was a large one at a major state university), so that's an other baseless assumption you're making.

I am also saying that college is no longer ALL about studying. It's about life experience, such as volunteering, working and interning. That's what employers want, in case you hadn't noticed. They don't WANT kids who spent four years with their noses in books. Heck, even colleges don't want students who spent their high school years with their noses in books. Ask any college admissions counselor.

I take it you're elderly? Everything was "better" in the good old days?
Yes and that's why Indians and Chinese are getting all the high paying STEM jobs while Americans settle for Starbucks counter jobs.

To the rest of the world college IS about studying and getting good grades.
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