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lets legalize murder because that will never go away too.
other effects? have you ever lived with an alcoholic and drug addict?
They will not get help unless they want to get help. You can dump all
the money you want into treatment but again unless they want help, its useless. 90% of people who addicted to alcohol and drugs and get treatment, fall off the
wagon.
Drug and alcohol abuse destroys families and society. Legalizing it is not
going to make things better.
Deliberately lying about the numbers isn't going to help your case. Recidivism rate after drug rehab programs is actually around the 20%-30% mark, depending on numerous factors.
Killing traffickers would just mean law enforcement would take over trafficking.
Which would mean the US would get its own cartels basand operating with law enforcement and organized crime formally merging like in Mexico.
I would not think anyone would want that result
If that was the case, why wouldn't law enforcement in the U.S already be colluding?
Cops in Mexico average 350 a month, the same as a general laborer - compare that with the U.S where cops make higher than average salaries in addition to having great benefits and retirement.
The same incentive isn't there, and the control systems in place (hiring process, internal affairs, judicial system that works) also aren't present in Mexico like they are here.
If that was the case, why wouldn't law enforcement in the U.S already be colluding?
Cops in Mexico average 350 a month, the same as a general laborer - compare that with the U.S where cops make higher than average salaries in addition to having great benefits and retirement.
The same incentive isn't there, and the control systems in place (hiring process, internal affairs, judicial system that works) also aren't present in Mexico like they are here.
Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it's not happening.
Because the laws against murder don't have the effect of creating more murder and mayhem, and fund increasingly powerful trans national gangs that threaten the stability of entire countries. The drug laws do exactly that.
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lets legalize murder because that will never go away too.
other effects? have you ever lived with an alcoholic and drug addict?
They will not get help unless they want to get help. You can dump all
the money you want into treatment but again unless they want help, its useless.
90% of people who addicted to alcohol and drugs and get treatment, fall off the
wagon.
Drug and alcohol abuse destroys families and society. Legalizing it is not
going to make things better.
This has happened. At one time, it was fairly common (thing 1970's and prior.) As late as the '80, there were a couple NYPD detectives who went as far as doing hits for the mob.
I think the various LE agences have gotten much better at policing their own. But given the money at stake, it's always a possibility.
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So you have proof that there is widespread police corruption in the United States, and that they collude with organized crime?
So you have proof that there is widespread police corruption in the United States, and that they collude with organized crime?
I know an assistant prison warden in my neighborhood who had to work late at the prison Friday night before Labor Day, because he had to make sure that his OWN guards weren't facilitating smuggling marijuana, cigarettes, cell phones and other drugs to the prisoners over the holiday weekend. He said there is money in it, and that it's becoming a problem. Just more hypocrisy regarding the war on drugs. Corrections officers playing both sides of the drug war!
I know an assistant prison warden in my neighborhood who had to work late at the prison Friday night before Labor Day, because he had to make sure that his OWN guards weren't facilitating smuggling marijuana, cigarettes, cell phones and other drugs to the prisoners over the holiday weekend. He said there is money in it, and that it's becoming a problem. Just more hypocrisy regarding the war on drugs. Corrections officers playing both sides of the drug war!
That happens in every correctional facility in America.
US law enforcement in border regions is also especially corrupted.
The war on drugs really isn't one. The best I could tell from what I watched was that it was a way to get funding for jobs, good paying jobs. Either the policing agencies are afraid of the cartels or are on the take. I'm guessing most states are the same. War on drugs - sham! They have no intention of stopping it. I think they do the minimum so it looks like they are actually "trying" but - sham! Could they stop it? They could minimize it and securing the southern border would do wonders in that direction. You'd have to look at who is really making the money off the drugs to understand what is going on is my guess.
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