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Old 09-07-2013, 08:13 PM
 
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Hey knowledge, you're in your early 20's (or younger), aren't you?
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:15 PM
 
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Do you find that ethical?
Doesn't really matter if I do or don't.
It's not my business or money. This is suppose to be a 'free' country where anyone can achieve the "American Dream". Everyone has their own way of thinking to achieve that. As long as they are not commiting a crime or placing anyone in danger, they should be able to work towards that dream. Even if you or I think it's stupid.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Doesn't really matter if I do or don't.
It's not my business or money. This is suppose to be a 'free' country where anyone can achieve the "American Dream". Everyone has their own way of thinking to achieve that. As long as they are not commiting a crime or placing anyone in danger, they should be able to work towards that dream. Even if you or I think it's stupid.
Because eventually society evolves. Only some are impatient and want to legislate it into effect now via punishment and fines. And that only serves to deepen the rift between people.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:19 PM
 
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Doesn't really matter if I do or don't.
It's not my business or money. This is suppose to be a 'free' country where anyone can achieve the "American Dream". Everyone has their own way of thinking to achieve that. As long as they are not commiting a crime or placing anyone in danger, they should be able to work towards that dream. Even if you or I think it's stupid.


We have a disagreement then.

I find marketplace discrimination unethical.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:25 PM
 
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That is your opinion. If all business refuse to service a given group, how would these same groups become consumers?

First of all, businesses are not people. You're going back to the whole "corporations are people" argument.

It's absurd to compare civil liberties of human beings to that of business interests. Come on, Buddy. You're smarter than that.
Businesses ARE people. Who started/owns the business? Who runs it? Who funds it?

That group can be consumers because there will ALWAYS be a business that will take their money. Businesses have expenses that need to be met.
These groups can still boycott these businesses and be successful in getting a business to change it's ways. Thats perfectly fine and we don't have a problem with that. The regulation by consumer is fine. We just don't believe there need to be laws forcing businesses to do what the people freely can.

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Old 09-07-2013, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Businesses ARE people. Who started/owns the business? Who runs it? Who funds it?

That group can be consumers because there will ALWAYS be a business that will take their money. Businesses have expenses that need to be met.
These groups can still boycott these businesses and be successful in getting a business to change it's ways. Thats perfectly and we don't have a problem with that. The regulation by consumer is fine. We just don't believe there need to be laws forcing businesses to do what the people freely can.
Oh it definitely works at the local level.
Local business relies more on reputation than anything else.
Either they change or they go out of business due to lack of customers.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:34 PM
 
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We have a disagreement then.

I find marketplace discrimination unethical.
But its ok to discriminate against businesses? Who provide employment, benefits and taxes.

You realize the Equal Opportunity Employment Act would still stand right? So those employers who cater to certain groups, would still hire hire whoever is capable of doing the job. Libertarians do not believe in discrimination period. Not against employees, consumers or businesses. Of the 3, businesses are the only ones being discriminated against.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:36 PM
 
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Oh it definitely works at the local level.
Local business relies more on reputation than anything else.
Either they change or they go out of business due to lack of customers.
Exactly.
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:41 PM
 
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But its ok to discriminate against businesses? Who provide employment, benefits and taxes.

You realize the Equal Opportunity Employment Act would still stand right? So those employers who cater to certain groups, would still hire hire whoever is capable of doing the job. Libertarians do not believe in discrimination period. Not against employees, consumers or businesses. Of the 3, businesses are the only ones being discriminated against.


So why not outlaw it?

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Old 09-07-2013, 08:48 PM
 
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So why not outlaw it?

You really think the Democrats and Republicans will fall for that? They WANT all the control they can have!
Why do you think they keep shutting the Libertarians out...
They are two sides of the same coin. They feed off each other. What bad policy have any of those two parties gone back and fixed after one criticized it initially?? NONE.
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