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So if you aren't worried and you think you have the entire US Military and most of the cops on your side, why haven't you started this civil war yet? When will you start this civil war? What will that "last straw" be for you before you take to the streets with your guns with the US Military and most of the cops in the country standing behind you?
And what will you do if you instead find the US Military and all the cops standing in front of you with their guns aimed at you? Will you continue on with your civil war or will you return to your computer and moan about how a civil war is coming, just not yet?
*push* *push* You don't have the balls to take to the streets and start a war against your government, that is something I can guarantee.
Yet a few brainwashed statist thugs would fight for the brass and the Tyrants in DC, most would stand down, or turn coat and fight with us..Who would the idifey with more, some statist liberal or Neo-Con who sees them as Knights to protect their federal kingdom? or their brothers, sisters, best friends, vets, and follow soldiers?
Because we believe violence is only the last course of action, unlike leftist who jump at every chance to commit a bombing or assassination. After seeing 201 mid terms and the recall in Colorado we believe we can pull this nation back for the brink.
That and a victory by such means would be hollow, it would be quick, it would be epic to see the traitors of the republic hang or be cut down by a firing squad on TV.
To see the Constitutional Restored, and liberty and prosperity sweep threw this nation..to see every man women and child be fully embraced and illuminated in liberty light.. but that would come at a cost, and right now we dont think we should pay for it in blood of patriots.
Its not about balls, its about brains and timing...
The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was not to prevent tyranny. That's just twisting the constitution, as it has no such provision.
The purpose was to provide a means for a militia in the absence of a standing army. Those that assert that the 2nd Amendment was to protect the people, so they can rise up against their elected government, are ignorant, plain and simple.
There is no provision in the Constitution to redress tyranny beyond the next election, impeachment and criminal prosecution. Those are the methods the Founders established for addressing government that didn't represent the people. The Founders never intended and never provided, a means to sanction insurrection by people who got a bug in their head that the government is tyrannical.
Yet a few brainwashed statist thugs would fight for the brass and the Tyrants in DC, most would stand down, or turn coat and fight with us..Who would the idifey with more, some statist liberal or Neo-Con who sees them as Knights to protect their federal kingdom? or their brothers, sisters, best friends, vets, and follow soldiers?
Because we believe violence is only the last course of action, unlike leftist who jump at every chance to commit a bombing or assassination. After seeing 201 mid terms and the recall in Colorado we believe we can pull this nation back for the brink.
That and a victory by such means would be hollow, it would be quick, it would be epic to see the traitors of the republic hang or be cut down by a firing squad on TV.
To see the Constitutional Restored, and liberty and prosperity sweep threw this nation..to see every man women and child be fully embraced and illuminated in liberty light.. but that would come at a cost, and right now we dont think we should pay for it in blood of patriots.
Its not about balls, its about brains and timing...
You guys or gonna die of old age waiting for the right time to rise up and "take back the country."
Your idea of war to restore the Constitution will never happen because you guys will never get together and start a single uprise.
Will the US last forever? Probably not, it is safe to say that no nation lives on forever, but will your group be the ones to bring on the next revolution and civil war? I can safely say, no.
When obstruction gets you precisely what you want? Good question. Honor. Obligation to society. These things mean nothing in such a self-centered context, so the point isn't to get such folks who engage in petulant obstructionism to compromise but rather to highlight the offensive nature of their perspectives and how they try to inflict them on everyone, and thereby discredit what they support. I noticed though that you didn't dispute what I wrote about pandering to people's selfish base desires. At least you tacitly admit that much.
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Originally Posted by gunlover
Love the superiority complex you display..
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. - Eleanor Roosevelt
I don't have a superiority complex. I'm not the one placing my personal desires over what's best for society (despite your claims that what I'm in favor of isn't what's best for society).
If you believe the 2nd Amendment "protects you from tyranny", aren't you really advocating killing police officers? Asassinating politicians and judges? Shooting government employees?
What separates you from the murderous mob? Criminal elements that believe in "might makes right"? Are you essentially agreeing with Chairman Mao that history comes from the barrel of a gun?
Mao said that power comes from the barrel of a gun. That statement, along with Mao's actions to back it up, alone should be enough to make anyone want to defend themselves against a powerful government.
You guys or gonna die of old age waiting for the right time to rise up and "take back the country."
Your idea of war to restore the Constitution will never happen because you guys will never get together and start a single uprise.
Will the US last forever? Probably not, it is safe to say that no nation lives on forever, but will your group be the ones to bring on the next revolution and civil war? I can safely say, no.
Then which group can you "safely tell us" it will it be?
The purpose of the 2nd Amendment was not to prevent tyranny. That's just twisting the constitution, as it has no such provision.
The purpose was to provide a means for a militia in the absence of a standing army. Those that assert that the 2nd Amendment was to protect the people, so they can rise up against their elected government, are ignorant, plain and simple.
There is no provision in the Constitution to redress tyranny beyond the next election, impeachment and criminal prosecution. Those are the methods the Founders established for addressing government that didn't represent the people. The Founders never intended and never provided, a means to sanction insurrection by people who got a bug in their head that the government is tyrannical.
Try reading the writings of Thomas Jefferson to get an idea of what the second amendment was supposed to mean, rather than trying to mold it to what you believe it should mean. Talk about twisting.
If Jews had access to weapons during WWII, should they have refrained from stopping their own slaughter just because they would have been attacking police officers and govt employees? Should North Koreans, in the event they gain access to weapons, not free themselves from torture, imprisonment and starvation just because they will be attacking politicians and judges?
Not recognizing tyrants is as dangerous as refusing to stop them.
^^This.^^
Of course, leftists (i.e. statists) would never acknowledge that our own government could do anything bad to its own people. They live in fantasy land, ignorant of world history and the propensity for government to become a stern master over its "subjects".
Hey DV1033, what amendment guarantees free speech? Clue. It is not the 1st Amendment.
The 1st Amendment provides for the right, the 2nd guarantees that right exists.
The more you try to convince yourself the more you convince others; of the need for the Constitution as written, not as you see it.
The second amendment guarantees all the others. Without an armed population, the government can have carte-blanche to do as it pleases.
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