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Old 10-04-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Texas
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My god you people have a hard time not thinking literally. Can anyone actually address the point behind the quote instead of dissecting the source. Don't you understand that people use quotes as analogies? I didn't think that was necessarily something that needed to be spelled out.
Using a flawed quote from an old conservative to reinforce a conservative position requires no thought and results in pointless partisan one-upsmanship and nothing more. And the reality is that Churchill's tired partisan quote isn't even accurate. But keep using it if it makes you feel like it's profound.
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Old 10-04-2013, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Swagger has a valid point Gringo, I have never read one of your posts where you hammer the Dems or fail to support Obama.
Just means you never read the gun control threads.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:26 AM
 
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Whatever appeal they once had they've lost. All they have is special interest money now (NRA, Right to life, ect).

It seems to me that the GOP is going to become a lobbying group more than anything. They have no chance to win the presidency anymore and they'll lose the majority of the house next year.

I expect a conservative Democratic party or independent party to spring up to take their place.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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Using a flawed quote from an old conservative to reinforce a conservative position requires no thought and results in pointless partisan one-upsmanship and nothing more. And the reality is that Churchill's tired partisan quote isn't even accurate. But keep using it if it makes you feel like it's profound.
So if I used the phrase "the tail wags the dog", are you the type of person who would point out to me the fact that it is physically impossible for that action to take place? I haven't read anything stupider than the idea that I was trying to 'sound profound' in a while. I was making a point by way of analogous example. The goal is to have a conversation about the point I was making, but you seem to have a hard time talking intelligently about anything but misguided literal interpretations.

Again, are you capable of responding to the POINT I was making instead of hiding behind literalism?
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Republicans are doing everything in their power to alienate as many as they can. It has gotten to the point that only their brainwashed follows believe everything that comes out of their mouths.
To the college students that post here:

Brainwashed? You guys march in lockstep with the President, Congress, federal bureaucrats, your professors, the news media, your union bosses and if you are in your 20s and still living at home, your parents.

Some actor or actress who makes their living reading words that a writer tells them to say, moves when a director tells them to move and even has someone else dress them is selling you on the wonders of the President's programs. When they aren't doing that, these Hollywood brainiacs are testifying in front of Congress as "experts" on foreign and domestic affairs.

The President is mesmerizing you to sign up for Obamacare so you pay for old geezers like me who go to the doctor a lot. It doesn't work unless you guys pony up for Obamacare. He's running up the debt to saddle you with a tremendous financial burden long after he's out of office. He wants to legalize all of these poor people coming into this country that you will eventually support/subsidize with your taxes. He grants waivers to all of these big corporations, organizations like AARP, unions and your Congressional Democrat leaders after they all sold you a bill of goods on the fabulousness of Obamacare. Apparently, it's good for you but not for them...or him and his family.

He wants more of you to go to college so his Democrats have someone's wealth to redistribute long after old folks like me are gone. There aren't enough rich people in the world to cover all of his programs. You college students will be the new "rich people" when everyone else is sucking off the government teat. He cons you into buying electric cars made by Obama big donors when he promised under him electricity costs would skyrocket. Why on earth would you want one if it's going to cost you a lot of money to have one. He shuts down the coal industry to make sure that happens because he apparently thinks electricity grows on trees. Wind farms are in until they're placed in some Democrat politician's neighborhood. When small businesses are screwed like with environmental regulations or rising gasoline costs, why does no politician ever explain to the American people about pass down costs in everything you purchase?

I realize the parents you live with and professors who can't actually do anything but teach are holding your hand until some of you are 26, and you're okay with being treated children so you don't mind it when the government treats you like children, but eventually you are going to shoulder the burden created for you and you are going to be in for a big effing shock after being babied for so long. "Who is that guy FICA and why is he taking so much of my paycheck?", you'll say.

Did you ever notice where all of those "great minds" that advise him go when they no longer want to advise the White House? They go crawling back to their universities where they don't have to actually be responsible for DOING the things they touted in their advisory capacity. Apparently tying shoelaces is a lot harder than teaching it or doing reseach on it.

Why is the government bailing out big corporations? Why is drilling in the Gulf bad for the US but it's okay if that exact same drilling is done by Brazil with US money? Why is a 2,000 page bill okay not to read or understand? (Hint: Lawyers are one the biggest Democrat donors and most Congress people are lawyers).

And while we're talking about the budget, why in the first two years of the Obama presidency, when they controlled the House, the Senate and the White House, did the Democrats fail to produce a budget? Ask your professors that one.

Wake up!
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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It was fairly obvious in the 2012 party conventions that the GOP was largely white and grey, in comparison to the Dems. I seem to recall there being some soul searching for a few hours afterwards, about how to expand the GOP tent.

Young voters. How do you feel about this shutdown and health care stand off? Just curious if Ted Cruz i& Co. are winning hearts and minds....
Obvious if all you did was watch it on MSNBC.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Republicans are doing everything in their power to alienate as many as they can. It has gotten to the point that only their brainwashed follows believe everything that comes out of their mouths.
god you're so annoying. and let me guess. democrats are perfect and flawless.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:26 PM
 
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Of course not.

Republicans have given themselves such a venomous reputation, that only out of touch middle aged and older people would ever consider voting for them.

Honestly, even the most delusional Republicans must feel a little queasy when they ponder the future of the party. Every demographic is voting for Democrats more and more. Apparently the 2012 election was in the bag for the Republicans (so they said) and look what happened. They didn't even come close.

Even Republicans come to know, at some point, that they are in danger.
Yes, because being fiscally responsible, keeping taxes low, and freedoms high, is such a quaint concept.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:32 PM
 
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The hardcore right thinks they're winning because they get such a distorted view of reality that they can't imagine why anyone would disagree with them. Reasonable people don't see things like universal health coverage to be anti-American.
But reasonable people DO see taking the hard earned income from productive Americans, to give to those that are NOT productive, to be quite Anti-American.

Universal healthcare is communism, which is the polar opposite to our country's ideals.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:33 PM
 
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LOL VthokieFan, but you can't embarrass the entitlement low class. They have no shame.
Exactly. They've been brainwashed into thinking that you're an idiot if you DON'T get whatever you can off the backs of hard working Americans.
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