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LOL! Yeah, great. Now how about some running water, electricity, a medical system that was dismantled, a government that works once they vote for it, etc. etc.
Funny those Iraqis and Afghans are not more grateful to us for giving them the "right to vote".
Sad you take so lightly the ability to vote.
Perhaps that is a symptom of not appreciating our freedoms?
Perhaps that is a symptom of not appreciating our freedoms?
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Originally Posted by oz in SC
I am glad you don't have an issue with helping Vets off the streets,please do as much as you can to help them on your own dime.
LOL. Yes I appreciate our freedoms, oz. I also appreciate the people that sacrifice for us to have those freedoms and would not mind using government funds to help those people.
LOL. Yes I appreciate our freedoms, oz. I also appreciate the people that sacrifice for us to have those freedoms and would not mind using government funds to help those people.
Neither would I as long as it is in the pruview of the federal governments mission.
While it FEELS good to do nice things for others(especially when it is at no cost to you presonally) if it isn't the federal government's 'job' then it shouldn't be done.
Neither would I as long as it is in the pruview of the federal governments mission.
While it FEELS good to do nice things for others(especially when it is at no cost to you presonally) if it isn't the federal government's 'job' then it shouldn't be done.
Have you ever studied the "general welfare" clause?
The term "general welfare" is in regards to the state not the individual.
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States."
The term "general welfare" is in regards to the state not the individual.
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States."
The term "General Welfare" does not include the citizens?
Which law school conveyed this information to you may I ask?
Which part of 'general welfare of the United States' is confusing?
Also what was the definition of 'welfare' when the document was written?
Perhaps your problem is revealed in your last sentence,there is no need for a law school degree to understand the Constitution and Bill Of Rights,it is quite easy to grasp...perhpas that is why lawyers(including those lawyers wearing black robes) have such problems.
Neither would I as long as it is in the pruview of the federal governments mission.
While it FEELS good to do nice things for others(especially when it is at no cost to you presonally) if it isn't the federal government's 'job' then it shouldn't be done.
You think taking care of our vets is a "feel-good" thing? It is both morally and pragmatically the right thing to do. And if it is a government program then obviously the taxpayers all pitch in.
Vets volunteer. No vets=no freedom=no constitution=no federal government purview=no money or nice lifestyle for oz.
Luckily for the rest of us, the Supreme Courts have consistently taken the Hamiltonian interpretation that the Congress does indeed have the power to tax when it deems good for the general welfare of our citizens.
While, therefore, the power to tax is not unlimited, its confines are set in the clause which confers it, and not in those of § 8 which bestow and define the legislative powers of the Congress. It results that the power of Congress to authorize expenditure of public moneys for public purposes is not limited by the direct grants of legislative power found in the Constitution.”
By and large, it is for Congress to determine what constitutes the “general welfare.” The Court accords great deference to Congress’s decision that a spending program advances the general welfare,595 and has even questioned whether the restriction is judicially enforceable.596 Dispute, such as it is, turns on the conditioning of funds.
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