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Could you post nature's plan, please? I tried to find it online but only came up with Nature's Recipe: Nature
Seems like homosexuality occurs in nature quite a bit. Thus, I would think that it's part of nature's plan. Perhaps you were given a revised copy? Or do you have some first-hand insight that the rest of mankind has, somehow, not been privy to? Do you have some kind of hotline to nature itself?
The penis goes into the vagina, then a baby is created.
This is pretty well known.
"Seems like homosexuality occurs in nature quite a bit. Thus, I would think that it's part of nature's plan."
Excuse me? Are fertility tests required for a civil marriage license? I had a friend who had ovarian cancer at 16 and had them removed. Guess she should have been denied a marriage certificate because she was infertile? Then there was my widowed MIL who remarried at 62. She was not going to be making any babies after menopause. Then you have straight couples who freely choose NOT to have children at all. Stop them from getting BC because the PURPOSE of marriage is to procreate? Oh, and to add to that, how MANY rugrats are we supposed to procreate for GOD or the STATE?????
Procreation is an absurd reason to deny marriage rights to gay couples.
Should infertile people be allowed to marry close relatives?
So does animals ingesting their own dung.....guess we should start doing that too.
Animals KILLING each other for simply treading on territory.
Yea...let's throw the baby out with the bath water...and get primal.
You know what else happens in nature? The observation of perceptible traits through evolution. We classify every other species in line with it. Except ourselves
If we were to try and do that...people would cry to the Supreme Court trolololoo
A man and woman of different races have complimentary sex organs and can produce offspring making the sex that takes place between a man and a woman of different races within nature's plan.
In decades past, some people were of the opinion that sexual unions between men and women of different races was not in keeping with nature's design.
That healthy and happy children are produced by interracial unions proves that the opinion expressed by those who believed interracial unions were outside of nature's design was in error.
Perhaps some day two men or two women will produce a child together and I'll be proven wrong.
Until then, homosexuality is an unnatural and unproductive behavior that fails to balance the risk of sexually transmitted disease with the advancement of the species.
Playing house with real kids doesn't change the unnatural nature of homosexuality.
The penis goes into the vagina, then a baby is created.
This is pretty well known.
Sure, but we are talking about marriage, not procreation...
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Originally Posted by momonkey
Nature's plan for what?
YOU are the one who brought nature's plan into the discussion. I wanted to know from YOU how you know what nature's plan is and how nature has informed you of this plan...
In short, I call you out on YOUR BS and you want me to answer for you. Nope - if you bring up nonsense arguments, YOU might as well explain them.
So does animals ingesting their own dung.....guess we should start doing that too.
Animals KILLING each other for simply treading on territory.
Yea...let's throw the baby out with the bath water...and get primal.
You know what else happens in nature? The observation of perceptible traits through evolution. We classify every other species in line with it. Except ourselves
If we were to try and do that...people would cry to the Supreme Court trolololoo
You need to ask momonkey - he/she is the person who argued that homosexual is not natural and thus, that we should not allow homosexual marriage simply based upon this assumption.
All I did was state that homosexuality does, indeed, occur naturally.
Alas, since you bring up other issues:
Is there a law that prohibits you from eating your own dung? Don't think so. If you do eat your own dung, are there laws that prohibit you from exercising any other right or privilege that others have? No. You can still get married, can you?
Humans ARE animals and they DO kill each other over territorial issues every single day. The problem with your argument is, of course, that killing another person causes harm. Our society generally does not protect actions that hurt or injure others. Marrying another person does not cause harm, now does it?
Your last statement is correct. We artificially attempt to downplay perceptible traits because they often function as a basis for discrimination. Thus, we generally argue that you cannot use an immutable trait as a basis for discrimination. The only exception to this rule is religion - which is clearly not an immutable trait.
Still, religion has caused such a tremendous degree of violence against our fellow human beings, that we have decided that it might as well be equal to a trait.
I've had five kids and I can guarantee I've had sex way more than five times. In fact, I mostly had sex for fun - and I wasn't always married to the person I had sex with.
Geez.......some of the best sex I ever had was when I was already pregnant.
You need to ask momonkey - he/she is the person who argued that homosexual is not natural and thus, that we should not allow homosexual marriage simply based upon this assumption.
All I did was state that homosexuality does, indeed, occur naturally.
Alas, since you bring up other issues:
Is there a law that prohibits you from eating your own dung? Don't think so. If you do eat your own dung, are there laws that prohibit you from exercising any other right or privilege that others have? No. You can still get married, can you?
Humans ARE animals and they DO kill each other over territorial issues every single day. The problem with your argument is, of course, that killing another person causes harm. Our society generally does not protect actions that hurt or injure others. Marrying another person does not cause harm, now does it?
Your last statement is correct. We artificially attempt to downplay perceptible traits because they often function as a basis for discrimination. Thus, we generally argue that you cannot use an immutable trait as a basis for discrimination. The only exception to this rule is religion - which is clearly not an immutable trait.
Still, religion has caused such a tremendous degree of violence against our fellow human beings, that we have decided that it might as well be equal to a trait.
So you realize discrimination is natural and maybe *gasp* not "immoral" or "wrong"?
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