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Old 10-22-2013, 06:11 PM
 
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Not all disabilities are fatal, some just make it difficult to hold a job unless assistance is given.
The insurance industry has a name for what you are describing. They call it the living death.

 
Old 10-22-2013, 06:20 PM
 
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i had 1500 in dental work done in 06. was told i had to pay 100 for it. was flat broke at the time. paid 100, never paid the rest back. i dont know who covered my other 1400, but good job to whoever did.
 
Old 10-22-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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Yes... it has.. it went up by about 70%. (Also raised deductible, co-pay and total out of pocket). I re-did my budget. Now a second rise in premiums.. depending on the cost of everything else.. which yes.. I'm estimating too will rise.. will not be affordable. Discretionary spending has been cut to the bone already, so don't tell me to quit buying this and that. It's already been done. We are not at the zero sum game... yet.

Now.. if the premiums go down as you tell me it will... well.. then me bad. I'll eat my words. But, history and common sense is telling me that there is no way that is going to happen.. So.. guess it's just too bad for me.....
Then you should advocate for single payer universal health care, that will help you the most.
 
Old 10-22-2013, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Yes... it has.. it went up by about 70%. (Also raised deductible, co-pay and total out of pocket). I re-did my budget. Now a second rise in premiums.. depending on the cost of everything else.. which yes.. I'm estimating too will rise.. will not be affordable. Discretionary spending has been cut to the bone already, so don't tell me to quit buying this and that. It's already been done. We are not at the zero sum game... yet.

Now.. if the premiums go down as you tell me it will... well.. then me bad. I'll eat my words. But, history and common sense is telling me that there is no way that is going to happen.. So.. guess it's just too bad for me.....
So you don't know for a fact that your premiums will increase.
 
Old 10-22-2013, 06:44 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Single payer people it works.
 
Old 10-22-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I "can't afford" health insurance, but I sacrificed other things to be able to.

You can't keep buying what you want and begging for what you need.

Personal responsibility and prioritizing is lost on lefties.
Some people have nothing to sacrifice.
 
Old 10-22-2013, 07:10 PM
 
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Single payer people it works.
Yup.
Single payer & PBS. It works.
 
Old 10-22-2013, 07:13 PM
 
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Some people have nothing to sacrifice.
They also lose their jobs if sick.
 
Old 10-22-2013, 07:18 PM
 
Location: South Bay
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If a person can't afford treatment or cure

Should they not receive treatment they are unable to currently pay for?

Should they search for charity?
Should the hospital bill the government?
Should the hospital garnish their wages until paid off, with interest?
Should the family members be forced to pay?
Should the hospital take a loss on the patient (bankruptcy)?
Should the patient be gouged as much as possible?
Should the wealthy people pay?
Should every taxpayer pay an even amount?
Should it depend on the cost of treatment?
Should only certain illnesses be paid for?
Should they have their property seized?
Should they be placed in a debtor's prison?
Should they be told to find a better job?

What should happen to those who currently can't afford to treat or cure their disease?
The cost of emergency care for the uninsured is $4.7B year. Obamacare is slated to cost $1.4T over the next 10 years. We could pay for the ER problem for 300 years with what Obamacare will cost in just 10.

The government has made sure there are very few non-profits left to take care of the needy.

BTW, the insurance companies are the ones who engineered Affordable? heath care with Obama promising to drive millions of new customers into their open arms.

I don't get it! What does it take for people to realize that we are all being had?

Obama is meeting with.................................... the Insurance industry leaders as I type! He and they will regroup and figure out how to salvage their billions in profits.
 
Old 10-22-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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I think the Republican criticism of ACA's short-term shortcomings will actually hasten single payer heathcare since that will address the high deductibles and cost issues that are apparent with traditional health care insurance.
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