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Not only is he saying that, but he's defending it by saying that their too stupid to understand when their being lied to, and thus its ok to destroy the country by passing policies that are being passed by lies, in order to then pass another bill to fix the bill that was just passed, of course using the argument that the new bill will "fix" the old bill, which leads to the question, is the new bill being passed due to lies as well? Clearly yes...And they want MORE of this crap
I disagree. Alinsky painted a clear picture of the liberal mind when he described how deception to implement an agenda is necessary. He doesn't mind the lies, because he's sure that the liar will ultimately implement the agenda, and deception is necessary to get people to agree to it.
I hear it's kinda like being in love with an abusive boyfriend...
Are you saying liberal voters are gullible and believe their own liars?
you seem to be shocked that that people are being drop form their coverage? Did you foresee this? Show that you were posting warnings of this prior to roll out.people didint know of this until roll out.
Remember the question: How can you tell a politician is lying? Answer: His lips are moving. Then that question was revised to: How can you tell a lawyer is lying? Same answer: His lips are moving.
Obama is a double liar!!!! Liar, liar, Obama's pants are on fire!!!!
you seem to be shocked that that people are being drop form their coverage? Did you foresee this? Show that you were posting warnings of this prior to roll out.people didint know of this until roll out.
No, I am not shocked.
I knew this the moment I read that part of the legislation itself. If you notice, my joining date for city-data isn't that long ago, so I find it hard to believe you'd expect me to show you posts here where I told people that. However, since millions of people knew and understood it, don't act surprised. We're the ones you were screaming "racist" at years ago.
Oh, I know he or she is a big Obama booster. I just can't stand that so many people accept lies just because they expect them.
As if Republicans don't do the same from their Republican representatives.
We all know that Presidents aren't all-powerful, that Congress debates and passes laws, and that the President cannot control Congress.
In this case, the President cannot control private, for-profit insurance companies. THEY are the ones cancelling policies. I wonder why people aren't angry at their insurance companies. Because that IRS Memo, if any of you actually read it, shows that the government was quite agreeable to insurance companies grandfathering in the old policies. Has Ms Malkin asked the insurance companies why they preferred to cancel the old policies that could have been grandfathered in, instead of cancelling them and offering more expensive policies?
I disagree. Alinsky painted a clear picture of the liberal mind when he described how deception to implement an agenda is necessary. He doesn't mind the lies, because he's sure that the liar will ultimately implement the agenda, and deception is necessary to get people to agree to it.
I hear it's kinda like being in love with an abusive boyfriend...
Yes. Conservatives NEVER use any of the strategies that Alinsky wrote about. And I have a bridge to nowhere for sale.....
you seem to be shocked that that people are being drop form their coverage? Did you foresee this? Show that you were posting warnings of this prior to roll out.people didint know of this until roll out.
Even the CBO said 30 million people will go without.. Are you now telling me that you're shocked that EVERYONE KNEW BUT YOU DEMOCRATS?
If we want to be angry at someone ... be angry at the insurance companies who have, without first consulting with policyholders/insureds, changed provisions of coverage which have made some plans non-compliance with the ACA. The federal government didn't mandate the changes to the individual policies, it was, from what I'm reading and listening to, the insurance companies who've done this (one example being the co-pay issue which has thrown some of the existing policies into the cancellation category). I think the NBC opinion piece provides a suggestion of that, as well.
I'm in a group plan, so I'm not impacted negatively by the ACA too much. My premiums have lowered last year and next. My benefits have increased. But my hospital stay co-pay rose as did my co-pay for visits to a specialist. Since I'm a cancer and heart patient, having had surgery for both, I benefit from the portability of coverage even with pre-existing conditions and the reduction on certain policy coverage ceilings on payments to physicians and hospitals by insurance companies. But I'm still in a wait and see mode, understanding that we're in the infancy of a new healthcare environment and that tweaks and adjustments will certainly be forthcoming as the experience with this grows. It's not much different than any huge new initiative. Public/Private partnerships often get off to a rough start and this one is no different.
If you're in a group plan, portability was not an issue any way. When HIPAA went into effect in the late 90's, it guaranteed you portability, that's why it's called the health insurance portability and accountability act!
As if Republicans don't do the same from their Republican representatives.
We all know that Presidents aren't all-powerful, that Congress debates and passes laws, and that the President cannot control Congress.
In this case, the President cannot control private, for-profit insurance companies. THEY are the ones cancelling policies. I wonder why people aren't angry at their insurance companies. Because that IRS Memo, if any of you actually read it, shows that the government was quite agreeable to insurance companies grandfathering in the old policies. Has Ms Malkin asked the insurance companies why they preferred to cancel the old policies that could have been grandfathered in, instead of cancelling them and offering more expensive policies?
Actually, the entire premise of the ACA is CONTROLLING private, for-profit insurance companies by forcing them to sell policies that comply with what the government thinks is best.Once again, we have on display everything that's wrong with liberalism. The apparatchiks in the bureaucracy are convinced that they know what's best in terms of health care coverage - not individual Americans. The bottom line is that statists like you and Obama want a centralized government running every aspect of our lives. The ACA is just another step towards total government control. That you claim "Obama cannot control private insurance companies" in the face of the mountain of evidence to the contrary is simply laughable. Of course the government is controlling what these companies do-that is the entire premise underlying the ACA.
Actually, the entire premise of the ACA is CONTROLLING private, for-profit insurance companies by forcing them to sell policies that comply with what the government thinks is best.Once again, we have on display everything that's wrong with liberalism. The apparatchiks in the bureaucracy are convinced that they know what's best in terms of health care coverage - not individual Americans. The bottom line is that statists like you and Obama want a centralized government running every aspect of our lives. The ACA is just another step towards total government control. That you claim "Obama cannot control private insurance companies" in the face of the mountain of evidence to the contrary is simply laughable. Of course the government is controlling what these companies do-that is the entire premise underlying the ACA.
The memo that this thread cites, from the IRS, outlines how insurance companies could grandfather in the existing policies. Any outrage toward those companies who chose to cancel and offer more expensive policies instead?
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