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Old 10-29-2013, 10:21 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Individual policy holders will, for the most part, receive better coverage that is more affordable, thanks to subsidies.
Sorry, NO.
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Under the Affordable Care Act, subsidies are only available for state exchanges.
No Obamacare subsidies in 34 states


"It's the Law of the Land!"

So say liberals.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I really hate to say it but I believed it, my wife's insurance was cancelled and her new policy costs $173.00 a month more. But I have to look at the bright side, at 63 years of age she now has maternity benefits.
We have not paid the premium as of yet hoping something will happen to either fix this mess or maybe we will all wake up from this bad dream and no policies will be cancelled and Obamacare will just go away.
On the bright side, her insurance will cover mental health care which would become a necessity if she were to find herself in a position of needing maternity care. Seriously now, the actuaries/underwriters know that your wife is not going to use maternity benefits. They also know that she is statistically more likely to be diagnosed with something nasty than a 30 year old.I am 5 years younger than your wife. The cost of an ACA compliant BCBS policy is twice the price I would pay if I were 25 years old.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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Excuse me for not taking at face value that a blog known to be hateful in its intent (linked in the OP) ... is truthfully reporting on the matter. Post a link to the report where the IRS is reported to have said what the haters are saying it says ... so that we can each read the words as written.
You'll have to excuse this guy above...

He thinks anything with truth in it, is just hating.

I see you're from/in Chicago. That figures. You're used to political BS and are probably jaded as a result.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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I wouldn't go near that site. If they can't handle the basics it surely isn't handling security and your personal information like your social security number can be at risk. Every website can be hacked and this site is no different in fact more susceptible to it because of the gold mine it holds and it is not working right.
With all the problems that the website is having, who in their right mind would think that that POS they built would be secure?
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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The stated goal for this year is to sign up 7 million uninsured other than Medicaid. Yes, that leaves millions still uninsured. MA went from about 95 percent insured to 98 percent in Romney care. No plan short of universal coverage will get everyone.
MA went to 98% insured without subsidies and without creating policies which skyrocketed premiums.How do you kick millions off of their current care, and then create 7 million MORE insured?
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:27 AM
 
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Not really. The same was said of Medicare and SS. Everybody loves a government check. In the end, the ACA will be more popular because far more benefit from it that either of those socialist
Leftists are cognitively incapable of anticipating the consequences of things. This is why they shouldn't be in positions of responsibility.

Watch and see.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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Not really. The same was said of Medicare and SS. Everybody loves a government check. In the end, the ACA will be more popular because far more benefit from it that either of those socialist schemes.
How do you figure? Do you think cutting peoples hours are a benefit? Do you think increasing deductibles is a benefit? Do you think making people work part time, rather than full time employment is a benefit? Do you think increased taxes are now a benefit?When will you just give it up and admit THIS plan is destined to failure..
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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How do you figure? Do you think cutting peoples hours are a benefit? Do you think increasing deductibles is a benefit? Do you think making people work part time, rather than full time employment is a benefit? Do you think increased taxes are now a benefit?When will you just give it up and admit THIS plan is destined to failure..
It will create more dependencies more democratic voters so yes they see it as a benefit
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Older men and women are covered by existing Medicare programs and have or will benefit greatly by the impact of ACA, according to what I'm reading and listening to.
Senior citizens PAY for Medicare. They also PAY for supplemental medical plans - Part D which can be for medical and/or prescriptions. Do you think that Medicare is some kind of golden, top of the line, free, medical plan?

You really don't know what you are talking about you have proven throughout this thread.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:43 AM
 
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Oh, so it's the old "But everyone else does it" excuse, which is exactly what I was saying was wrong. But whatever. You justify it anyway you want. Just remember that people like you and those Republicans you talk about are what's wrong with this country today. No ethics, no character, no honor. It's becoming an epidemic. And please, give us credit for some intelligence. You constantly blame the insurance companies for canceling policies, but the regulations written into the law say that any minor change to a policy means that policy is no longer eligible for grandfathering. Insurance companies didn't pass the law, and they didn't sign it. It's all on the Democrats and President Obama.
Like what sort of minor change?

Insurance companies helped write the law.

It's only "all on the Democrats and President Obama" if you are willfully blind to the reality of the situation. Which one would be if they were entrenched partisans, rather than rational people assessing what's happening.
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