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And how is said license going to keep anyone from killing others? Tell me how many murders are committed with legally owned weapons?
Never said it would now did I? Please point out where I specifically said that. Thanks!
Exact numbers are impossible, but you have heard of "self defense", right? I know of a shipmate who used his legally owned firearm to kill someone after they tried breaking into his house. The perp died on the way to the hospital and fortunately no one else was hurt.
As I said, the 2nd Amendment deals with a tool that can be used to kill people.
I always thought the answer was because it's the only amendment the subject of which can be used to massacre people. Then again, all those drive-by killings with free speech … mowing down of small children with the separation of church and state …perhaps we should rethink the matter after all.
Weapons of any sort are just tools. Speech and religion have often been the motive to use them.
By extension whatever logic you're using, it would not be constitutional to stop any legal foreign resident from owning a nuclear weapon, because legal foreign residents can own firearms today. Neither would be considered a "terrorist" until after they'd committed an act of terror or were found guilty of conspiring to commit an act of terror.
But at that point, both a citizen and a legal resident could be prohibited from owning a nuclear weapon.
Actually, though, either really is already effectively prohibited from owning a nuclear weapon because of state and federal laws controlling possession of hazardous nuclear materials.
they are from another country. they do not get the same rights. also no immigration either.
Sorry, but no. You need a license for the 2nd Amendment because you are purchasing a deadly weapon along with ammunition for said weapon.
Actually you don't need a license. You may wish to create some law that a license must be required, but as of today, there is no federal mandate to have a license to purchase a firearm...
Get over it...
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It's the only amendment that deals with a tool used to kill people.
Only I've without a shadow of a doubt proven that this is not the case. You obviously don't want to accept this information, that's your prerogative, however it does impact your credibility when you cannot refute what I've said using a logically cogent argument, but can only repeat the same phrase.
You do of course know that knowledge and ideas are the greatest threat to everything from governments to individuals, knowledge and ideas can only be conveyed by tools that are protected under the 1st Amendment, the pen is a tool, language is a tool, a typewriter, a printing press, you computer are tools, books like the Bible, The Anarchists Cookbook, Mein Kampf, the Little Red Book, all are tools for conveying ideas, are you saying that none of these are dangerous? Are you saying that none have been used to kill people? Jonestown is an excellent example of how something protected under the 1st Amendment was used as a tool to kill people, as of course are the Crusades, and various Jihads, Witch trials, and the Spanish Inquistion (because no one expects it).
Actually you don't need a license. You may wish to create some law that a license must be required, but as of today, there is no federal mandate to have a license to purchase a firearm.
Not in Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Wyoming, Vermont, all are constitutional carry states, Montana too outside of city limits. There's no general federal law proscribing carry in any way whatsoever concealed carry is under states control, not federal.
A concealed carry license isn't relevant to your argument anyway, you said
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Sorry, but no. You need a license for the 2nd Amendment because you are purchasing a deadly weapon along with ammunition for said weapon.
Concealed carry is concealed carrying, purchasing is purchasing.
Would you like to quit now, or do you really want to keep digging?
Not in Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Wyoming, Vermont, all are constitutional carry states, Montana too outside of city limits. There's no general federal law proscribing carry in any way whatsoever concealed carry is under states control, not federal.
A concealed carry license isn't relevant to your argument anyway, you said
Concealed carry is concealed carrying, purchasing is purchasing.
Would you like to quit now, or do you really want to keep digging?
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Thanks. As you can see, hardly any States require a license to own one, and more importantly there is no federal requirement for a license.
Actually, there is a federal requirement for a firearm license, but only in DC. There is no federal license requirement for any of the States or US territories.
Actually, there is a federal requirement for a firearm license, but only in DC. There is no federal license requirement for any of the States or US territories.
Oh man, DC is a messed up place. You can get hauled to jail for having a spent casing there...
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