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Old 11-16-2014, 10:22 PM
 
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This could have just as easily happened here in the US. One of the problems is that almost all medicine for asthma is only available by prescription. Here in the US though its worse than Ireland. People have to pay as much as 3x as much for prescription medicine. Stuff like this should be available over the counter. The Tea Party types though are oblivious to the cost of medicine though thanks to Medicare. Any attempt to control the cost of medicine is socialism and that bad...very bad.
Does anyone really think the Tea Party types want to lower the cost of health care or make it more accessible? Not on their Medicare supported gubbermint lives...lol




We see the level of relevancy of your post, it is overwhelming obvious.

 
Old 11-16-2014, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Houston
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in that instance you would have a obvious emergency. in the case of the pharmacist, he did not see the girl thus he didnt see any obvious emergency. and since he didnt see any emergency, he HAD TO FOLLOW THE LAWS.
No, he did not. Under no circumstances does anyone have to follow the laws.
 
Old 11-16-2014, 11:00 PM
 
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No, he did not. Under no circumstances does anyone have to follow the laws.
so then you are suggesting that all laws are rubbish and no one has to follow them at all? regardless of consequences? or are you suggesting that there be no consequences?
 
Old 11-16-2014, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Houston
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so then you are suggesting that all laws are rubbish and no one has to follow them at all? regardless of consequences? or are you suggesting that there be no consequences?
I am suggesting that there are bad laws and at times even good laws that situations may require a man with any since of morality to disobey them and throw himself at the mercy of the court if need be.

The epipen can be purchased without a prescription in Canada. For once I will suggest the US and UK take Canada's lead.

What we had here was the perfect storm of stupid, a stupid girl, a stupid mother, a stupid pharmacist and a stupid law.

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Old 11-16-2014, 11:38 PM
 
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in that instance you would have a obvious emergency. in the case of the pharmacist, he did not see the girl thus he didnt see any obvious emergency. and since he didnt see any emergency, he HAD TO FOLLOW THE LAWS.
A defibrillator is for emergency use.

An epi-pen is for emergency use.

There has never been a recorded case of epi-pen abuse.

Anyone who asks for one should not be presumed by the State to be an abuser, or to not know whether it is right for him or her.

The pharmacist was a fear driven zombie of immense stupidity.

I've always said that mostly the stupid need an education.

I think the Wizard of Oz said likewise.

Also . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEEyijiTW-I

Sadly, Zombies have transcended courage.

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Old 11-17-2014, 12:07 AM
 
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A defibrillator is for emergency use.

An epi-pen is for emergency use.

There has never been a recorded case of epi-pen abuse.

Anyone who asks for one should not be presumed by the State to be an abuser, or to not know whether it is right for him or her.

The pharmacist was a fear driven zombie of immense stupidity.
The stupid pharmacist did not ask the woman, "Are you having an emergency?"
 
Old 11-17-2014, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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The stupid pharmacist did not ask the woman, "Are you having an emergency?"
The mother left her daughter outside, did not volunteer that it was an emergency, and did not communicate the seriousness of the situation to the pharmacist.
 
Old 11-17-2014, 01:49 AM
 
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The mother left her daughter outside, did not volunteer that it was an emergency, and did not communicate the seriousness of the situation to the pharmacist.
Epi-pens are serious instruments.

The woman had a distressed demeanor.

The pharmacist wasn't bothered by HER problems, as he was a professional, requiring the discipline of a cool head, as defined by indifference to his patrons.

The laws are not in place to protect people; they are there to protect persons, from people.
 
Old 11-17-2014, 05:36 AM
 
Location: North America
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They have no case if they try to sue the pharmacist. He has no duty to act.

Yes they do. You know nothing of legal matters if you believe that. Many a doctor has been successfully sued for following the rules in which someone died. In the end it's about who is going to look more sympathetic to a jury. The family of dead young girl or a simple minded doctor who let a girl die in front of him because she wasn't following the bureaucratic rules of his Country?
 
Old 11-17-2014, 05:37 AM
 
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I am suggesting that there are bad laws and at times even good laws that situations may require a man with any since of morality to disobey them and throw himself at the mercy of the court if need be.

The epipen can be purchased without a prescription in Canada. For once I will suggest the US and UK take Canada's lead.

What we had here was the perfect storm of stupid, a stupid girl, a stupid mother, a stupid pharmacist and a stupid law.
Was it confirmed that the "worker" was actually a pharmacist in the first place?

How much elapsed time are we talking about?
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