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Old 11-18-2014, 11:52 AM
 
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When it's an emergency, people around have a duty to do what they can to help - prescriptions be damned.
Really? Where's the law absolving them from all professional and legal liabilities in such a case?

 
Old 11-18-2014, 11:53 AM
 
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Really? Where's the law absolving them from all professional and legal liabilities in such a case?
Where professionals fear to tread.
 
Old 11-18-2014, 02:10 PM
 
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Maybe he should have made the effort to see her. He should have been bright enough to understand that when someone is requesting an epipen a life may be at stake.

Why did all them rights protestors in the '60s go to jail?
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Listen, I have a kid with a peanut allergy. Yes, the mother should have had Epi, and yes they should call for help. But when it takes the ambulance 5-10 minutes at best to show up, do you think the kid can hang on for that long without breathing?? You clearly haven't thought this through.

When it's an emergency, people around have a duty to do what they can to help - prescriptions be damned. If it was you lying on that street choking to death, you would pray that someone - anyone - would help you, and you damn well know it. For you to callously disregard the moral obligation of others to help someone in this circumstance (especially someone who has the means to save the life right at their fingertips) is DISGUSTING, and it reinforces the thesis that conservatives have fault wiring when it comes to basic right and wrong. If that was my kid and you as a pharmacist did that, you would be taking your last breath soon...and it would be worth dying or going to jail over it.
why didnt mom bring the daughter into the pharmacy? why didnt mom call emergency services FROM THE RESTAURANT? why didnt mom have an epipen with her? why didnt the daughter have an epipen with her? why did the daughter choose a sauce CLEARLY MARKED AS CONTAINING PEANUTS knowing she had an allergy to peanuts?

as for someone coming and asking for an epipen, how many people ask for one because they forgot theirs, but have no emergency?

in the end, the pharmacist did nothing wrong, mom and daughter did everything wrong.
 
Old 11-18-2014, 03:08 PM
 
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Primatene Mist inhalers are available over the counter (OTC). It contains epinephrine and could save someone's life. Another mistake made by the mom and daughter and pharmacist because they could carry one of these and live long enough to get to the ER.

So arbitrary laws define what is available to the public based on what the "experts" believe the public can handle. The USA and European countries regulate drugs heavily unlike say, Mexico.

In this thread I am seeing two groups of people:
1) Those who are a slave to the law and will uphold it even if other people die
2) Those who will use their own judgement to help someone even if it means breaking the law.
 
Old 11-18-2014, 03:13 PM
 
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as for someone coming and asking for an epipen, how many people ask for one because they forgot theirs, but have no emergency?
People don't ask for an EpiPen, without first offering up a prescription, unless there IS an emergency.

Pharmacists are not trained to handle emergencies, and therefore, they can't.

Zombies can only do what they are trained to do.

There must be perfect conditions for them to function.
 
Old 11-18-2014, 03:14 PM
 
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People don't ask for an EpiPen, without first offering up a prescription, unless there is an emergency.
What about EpiPen abusers/addicts?
 
Old 11-18-2014, 03:22 PM
 
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People don't ask for an EpiPen, without first offering up a prescription, unless there IS an emergency.

Pharmacists are not trained to handle emergencies, and therefore, they can't.

Zombies can only do what they are trained to do.

There must be perfect conditions for them to function.
"Damn it Jim! I'm a doctor, not an alchemist!" Bones, from Star Trek revised.
 
Old 11-18-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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What about EpiPen abusers . .?
Spare the Pen and kill the child.
 
Old 11-18-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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Carrying spares? I'm extremely nearsighted--without glasses I can't even tell that the chart has letters. I have spare eyeglasses everywhere: Upstairs, downstairs, two spares in my car, a spare in my briefcase, a spare in my desk at work, a spare in my gun bag, a spare anywhere I might be in whatever I might have with me. I would not be caught anywhere without a spare of something that was vital to me.

But this event was nearly a year ago, and supposedly the UK pharmacist board was going to hold an inquiry. So what was the result of that? I see nothing more about it beyond the first report. I haven't even seen it confirmed that an actual pharmacist was the man involved...the reports variously say "pharmacist" and "worker."
 
Old 11-18-2014, 04:10 PM
 
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But this event was nearly a year ago, and supposedly the UK pharmacist board was going to hold an inquiry. So what was the result of that? I see nothing more about it beyond the first report. I haven't even seen it confirmed that an actual pharmacist was the man involved...the reports variously say "pharmacist" and "worker."
I don't believe any report has been issued. And this took place in Ireland, not the UK.
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