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Old 11-28-2007, 01:10 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Not going over this again at length, we've already discussed it. As bad as Hamas is, there's pretty solid evidence from various polls and surveys that the election wasn't a mandate for attacks on Israel, or for "dressing up children as suicide bombers," but rather had more to do with Fatah's corruption, incompetence, and having held power for over a decade.
Kind of like voting for Mussolini as he got the trains to run on time....
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Your mind
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I fail to see how any of this is Israel's fault.
Apparently the problem is that you think that I think it is. Like I've said, I don't have your good guy/bad guy dichotomy thing going on, there's heroes and villains in both camps.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Kind of like voting for Mussolini as he got the trains to run on time....
You got it. Bread and circuses and the siren song of past imperial glories recaptured....
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:13 PM
 
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Kind of like voting for Mussolini as he got the trains to run on time....
I'm not saying they made the right choice, just that the election results don't signal a rejection of the peace process by a majority of Palestinians.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:16 PM
 
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I'm not saying they made the right choice, just that the election results don't signal a rejection of the peace process by a majority of Palestinians.
Of course. The Palestinians peace party, though comprised of a vast majority of palestinians, has yet to offer a candidate. For anything.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:19 PM
 
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I'm not saying they made the right choice, just that the election results don't signal a rejection of the peace process by a majority of Palestinians.
If you vote for a group whose charter states it's desire to destroy Israel and the Jews it would seem you would have to be a fool to think this would lead to peace.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:20 PM
 
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Apparently the problem is that you think that I think it is. Like I've said, I don't have your good guy/bad guy dichotomy thing going on, there's heroes and villains in both camps.
Sort of like Dachau and Birken-Belsen.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:59 PM
 
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If you vote for a group whose charter states it's desire to destroy Israel and the Jews it would seem you would have to be a fool to think this would lead to peace.
Or misinformed, most of the Hamas candidates refrained from talking about the more radical aspects of their charter (Islamic law, expulsion of Israel) during the election.
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:02 PM
 
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Of course. The Palestinians peace party, though comprised of a vast majority of palestinians, has yet to offer a candidate. For anything.
Yes, as Americans we're intimately familiar with the ease with which one may start up a successful new party and break up the old power structure while winning the support of a majority of the populace, we've had what, like 3 Libertarian Party presidents in the past century and 7 Greens make it to the national debates, right?
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:02 PM
 
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Or misinformed, most of the Hamas candidates refrained from talking about the more radical aspects of their charter (Islamic law, expulsion of Israel) during the election.
Adding to the unavoidable impression that they are devious as well as violent.
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