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Old 01-14-2014, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Not really a lot of times the bigoted Democrats just became Republicans like the two famous Carolinians you mysteriously exempted from your list Jesse Helms and Strom Thrumond.
ROFL! Yet another who is completely ignorant of history. Jesse Helms has always been a Republican. Furthermore, he did not get elected to the US Senate until 1972, eight years AFTER the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was enacted into law.

Jesse Helms is one of those new southern Republicans, like Newt Gingrich, John Ashcr*ft, Lamar Alexander, Thad Cochran, and all the other new Republicans that were replacing the old bigoted Democrats in the south. After Wallace lost in 1968, the southern States completely shifted how they vote. At every level, local, State, and federal, the very same five southern States that voted for Wallace in 1968, now voted for Republicans in 1972.
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Lincoln was a republican... the first republican to run for president to abolish slavery.
Talk about rewriting history. . .
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:28 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I guess you have never heard the terms yellow dog and blue dog?

I love how Republicans classified as RINOS, conservative, moderates and Tea Party...yet the same is not true for Democrats.
Yes, I've heard the terms. I was being a bit sarcastic with my comment. Yellow Dog or Blue dog, it doesn't matter. They are still Democrats.

Their were, however, Reagan Democrats. There is also Pat Caddell, whom I like (because he seems like one of the few with a brain).

Right now, the Democrat Party is all leftist extremism. They are all "Progressives," and therfore Marxist/socialists. Worse, they are proud of it! They do not bellieve in America. They hate the Constitution, and if they could, they would get rid of it.

I hear today that Obama (their "dear leader") is planning to use "the pen" (executive orders) to get things done for the remainder of his term. This is tyranny any way you slice it. Executive orders were never to be used as a means of forcing policies on Americans that couldn't be passed by Congress. We'll see how this works.

I have a pen too (computer), and I'm going to be using it more and more, writing to my Congressman, and perhaps some Letters to the Editor.

Had a call a few weeks ago from one of my Congressman's aids, who wanted to know what I thought on various issues. He had noted that I had faxed frequently. I was pleased that, apparently, they do care, and do listen. We had a pleasant conversation for about 15 or 20 minutes.
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Old 01-14-2014, 11:43 AM
 
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either way republicans are the anti-minority party today, thats all that matters, not the revisionist history spin that republicans like to use. what matters is now.
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:41 PM
 
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Neither Republicans or Democrats care about ppl of color or interests of the poor. They both use these peoples and exploit them for their sociopolitical gain and financial and economic power.

PoLIEtics is bull****.
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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Yes, I've heard the terms. I was being a bit sarcastic with my comment. Yellow Dog or Blue dog, it doesn't matter. They are still Democrats.

Their were, however, Reagan Democrats. There is also Pat Caddell, whom I like (because he seems like one of the few with a brain).

Right now, the Democrat Party is all leftist extremism. They are all "Progressives," and therfore Marxist/socialists. Worse, they are proud of it! They do not bellieve in America. They hate the Constitution, and if they could, they would get rid of it.

I hear today that Obama (their "dear leader") is planning to use "the pen" (executive orders) to get things done for the remainder of his term. This is tyranny any way you slice it. Executive orders were never to be used as a means of forcing policies on Americans that couldn't be passed by Congress. We'll see how this works.

I have a pen too (computer), and I'm going to be using it more and more, writing to my Congressman, and perhaps some Letters to the Editor.

Had a call a few weeks ago from one of my Congressman's aids, who wanted to know what I thought on various issues. He had noted that I had faxed frequently. I was pleased that, apparently, they do care, and do listen. We had a pleasant conversation for about 15 or 20 minutes.
Just imagine if Democrats all became a nation etc, the meaning and dynamics within those Democrats would automatically shift and change.

Plus within any political party it is not a monolith or homogenous.
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Old 01-14-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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Lincoln was a republican... the first republican to run for president to abolish slavery.
Times were different back then. The south was built on slavery, it was the way it always was, and if anybody was against it, they didn't dare speak out against it, it was just understood. The south needed to learn a new way of living with free people. Or maybe I'm out on a limb here and the Democrats really want to enslave everybody to the government as revenge or just for kicks.
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Old 01-14-2014, 01:22 PM
 
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ROFL! Yet another who is completely ignorant of history. Jesse Helms has always been a Republican. Furthermore, he did not get elected to the US Senate until 1972, eight years AFTER the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was enacted into law.

Jesse Helms is one of those new southern Republicans, like Newt Gingrich, John Ashcr*ft, Lamar Alexander, Thad Cochran, and all the other new Republicans that were replacing the old bigoted Democrats in the south. After Wallace lost in 1968, the southern States completely shifted how they vote. At every level, local, State, and federal, the very same five southern States that voted for Wallace in 1968, now voted for Republicans in 1972.
You might want to check your facts before you accuse someone of being ignorant. Jesse Helms was elected to the senate in 1972, but began his political career as a Democrat championing segregation in the 1950s. You do realize that folks have political views before they come to the senate.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-s...ms-dies-at-86/

"In 1972, Helms - who had switched from the Democratic Party to the Republicans because of differences over civil rights legislation - ran for the U.S. Senate, winning on the coat-tails of President Nixon's landslide re-election."

"Helms offered editorial messages, broadcast after the nightly newscasts, which were decidedly ideological - in one, he proposed building a wall around UNC-Chapel Hill (which he dubbed "the University of Negroes and Communists") to contain its "liberal" influence."

"Like most Southern politicians of his era, Helms began as a segregationist"

"He led opposition to making Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday a national holiday."

I would suggest doing a little more research next time before you make yourself look ignorant.
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Old 01-14-2014, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Yes, I've heard the terms. I was being a bit sarcastic with my comment. Yellow Dog or Blue dog, it doesn't matter. They are still Democrats.

Their were, however, Reagan Democrats. There is also Pat Caddell, whom I like (because he seems like one of the few with a brain).

Right now, the Democrat Party is all leftist extremism. They are all "Progressives," and therfore Marxist/socialists. Worse, they are proud of it! They do not bellieve in America. They hate the Constitution, and if they could, they would get rid of it.

I hear today that Obama (their "dear leader") is planning to use "the pen" (executive orders) to get things done for the remainder of his term. This is tyranny any way you slice it. Executive orders were never to be used as a means of forcing policies on Americans that couldn't be passed by Congress. We'll see how this works.

I have a pen too (computer), and I'm going to be using it more and more, writing to my Congressman, and perhaps some Letters to the Editor.

Had a call a few weeks ago from one of my Congressman's aids, who wanted to know what I thought on various issues. He had noted that I had faxed frequently. I was pleased that, apparently, they do care, and do listen. We had a pleasant conversation for about 15 or 20 minutes.
That is because no one ever becomes a Democrat after they have been a Republican. Even Jumpin' Jim Jeffords became an Independent rather than a Democrat in 2001.

Perhaps one day a Republican will become a Democrat and started advocating for a fiscally responsible government that abides by the US Constitution rather than violating it and intentionally deceiving the American people. Then you Democrats will have a true DINO on your hands. But do not hold your breath, because that day will never come.
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Old 01-14-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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After Wallace lost in 1968, the southern States completely shifted how they vote. At every level, local, State, and federal, the very same five southern States that voted for Wallace in 1968, now voted for Republicans in 1972.
I think this is a rather ignorant view as well. In several southern states it was not until 2000-2012 that Republicans won on the state level.

In Georgia Republicans did not win on the legislative until 2002, In North Carolina it wasn't until 2010 and in Arkansas it did not happen until 2012. The same is true for Alabama, Lousiana and Mississippi where Democrats retained legislatures until well into the 2000s.
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