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Old 02-08-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
Absolutely.

Police have gotten too carried away with their expanded powers in this country. Next time, they'll be a lot more polite about apprehending someone.

Barging in on someone with a no-knock warrant over some weed is ridiculous anyway.
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My concern is that this won't lead to more politeness by officers - merely an increased level of force. Instead of sending an entry team through a door, maybe the next evolution in protocol will be to start the raid with incapacitation agents fired from well outside. Or to use a robot to enter and survey and "neutralize" any threats without risk to officers themselves.
i also agree with the grand jury, and i also agree with tablemtn, the cops are not going to get more polite in regards to this ruling, they are going to get more aggressive. more body armor, flash grenades, stun grenades, tear gas, perhaps even mini tanks to bulldoze a front opening to the house when serving such a warrant. the courts erred in allowing these warrants to happen.
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:04 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Well, "we all need some thing we can LEAN on."

Speaking for yourself again, eh?

Leaning into, now becomes leaning on

One pushes(into) and one is for stability(on).
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You don't know what a BAR is?

It is a place to get drunk......
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:11 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It would help to be Arnold, or better yet Shaq with that. I think the BAR was mostly fired from prone, but good point about the need to anticipate that these thugs will have vests on. Gordon Liddy was flamed by the left for recommending head shots, but to my way of thinking, if you're a Jew facing a Gestapo, you do whatever it takes to kill that bast***.

It would help but, Clyde Barrow was not a big stout man at all. 5'7" and 145#. The BAR was his friend and the feds feared it.
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:46 AM
 
Location: USA
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Man how opinions are changing...
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:46 AM
 
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You don't know what a BAR is?
Apparently you're the only one that didn't catch on that I was referring to recoil.

Anyway, I'm surprised that this guy made it out alive. After he killed the cop, any of the other offers could have had killed him at any moment armed or not and would have gotten away with it. I'd bet, legal or not, the next time something like this happens, the suspect isn't walking out alive...

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Old 02-09-2014, 07:57 AM
 
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So bad guys can just knock and say "I'm a cop, you must open' , then bam, rob the place... Laws always make so much sense.
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:55 PM
 
Location: In Your Head
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Looks like the cop had a case of that "Suicide by citizen" that may be going around.
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Old 02-10-2014, 05:01 AM
 
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"In an astonishing ruling, ... "


I like how it's ASTONISHING when the right thing is done in America.
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Old 02-10-2014, 06:40 AM
 
Location: United States
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The grand jury just ruled that there wasn't enough evidence for Capital Murder charges. I would bet my bottom dollar that his will face a lesser murder charge. The government will not allow a police officer to be killed like this. This guy will be convicted of murder.
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