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Even where a gun is supposed to be in every home, American conservatives would absolutely croak if they had the same kind of gun regulations at play in the US as they do in Switzerland.
Not just conservatives; many of our "liberals" carry and shoot too, not all liberals are gun haters.
In before "so? They were allied with the Nazis" herpy derpy.
It appears you are the one bringing up the Nazis.
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Japan is an overpopulated, small, mountainous island country with extremely expensive land and housing and few natural resources. Have you considered that maybe they don't want any more people and for good reason? Should they let a bunch of people in, continue building vertically and importing more and more food and oil as their population's purchasing power and standard of living continually decline as wages stagnate and prices continually inflate? Or maybe build some more nuclear power plants because Fukushima worked out so well? Maybe they should live like a bunch of rats in a cage with increasing cost of living and dwindling resources eroding their middle class just so people will be impressed by their GDP number.
Maybe that's the kind of future you want for the US? Bulldoze all the forests so we can throw up more shopping malls, factories, prisons, parking lots and housing complexes to accommodate the rest of the world's people. Pollute the air, water, and land trying to feed, house, and cloth another hundred million people. More fracking, drilling, and mining at increasingly higher extraction costs raising the cost of everything.
Let's not stop until the whole country looks like this:
Have you considered that some people don't want a ton of immigration because they actually care about the environment, not because they're racist white conservatives? If liberals really cared about nature and the environment they wouldn't want to open the floodgates and ruin what's left of the country that's not covered in pavement, pollution, and trash.
Japan may be overpopulated, but if their population loss continues by deaths exceeding births their demographics are going to be screwed up. It's hard to carry on economically if there aren't enough workers.
Much of the anti-immigration sentiment in the US is racism disguised as "concern for the environment".
OTOH: many "liberals" want MORE "brown skin" aliens and "Hispanic" aliens of ANY skin color coming here because those libs HATE anglo whites it seems. Sheesh!
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What a mess. This is an anglo-white country. We should only be allowing immigration from those countries to keep our identity.
Our identity is immigrants. When my ancestors came on the mayflower, they knew that. Their descendants knew that. How ugly would this nation be if we didn't embrace a melting pot of culture? Not to mention as dumb as the south. I'd rather be the US, than Switzerland!
We need to take extreme steps to stop illegal immigration... and perhaps immigration of uneducated folks.
They are not a member of EU so they can make any laws they want.
Well, they signed bilateral treaties that made them part of the common market. Free movement of goods, people, capital, ... Without any trade barriers. They knew that from now on they would have to implement most directives and regulations of the EU.
Now they want to get rid of the freedom of movement. Fine. It's their right to do so. But now the EU will probably impose high fees on financial transactions and other nasty stuff, that will probably **** off a lot of people with money or companies in places like Zurich and the Kanton of Zug. They will think twice, if it's worth the hassle and just open up a bank account in Luxembourg, Liechtenstein or Austria instead...
Novartis already said that they'll probably move somewhere else instead... One of the biggest employers of the region.
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no its not. its a democratic socialist country. i dont know the specifics regarding switzerland immigration to comment on if what they are doing is good or bad.
Well it's a 'conservative country' in the sense that the Swiss have a culture and a nation state that they desire and seek to 'conserve'.
From listening to you guys nothing in America culture is remotely worth conserving.
Well, they signed bilateral treaties that made them part of the common market. Free movement of goods, people, capital, ... Without any trade barriers. They knew that from now on they would have to implement most directives and regulations of the EU.
Now they want to get rid of the freedom of movement. Fine. It's their right to do so. But now the EU will probably impose high fees on financial transactions and other nasty stuff, that will probably **** off a lot of people with money or companies in places like Zurich and the Kanton of Zug. They will think twice, if it's worth the hassle and just open up a bank account in Luxembourg, Liechtenstein or Austria instead...
Novartis already said that they'll probably move somewhere else instead... One of the biggest employers of the region.
They signed the Schenchen Argeement, but that does not mandate member countries to allow limitless immigration, but free travel like tourism. The member nations are not required to apply for visas to travel to other member states.
It is becoming a good example to NOT sigh such treaties in the first place.
From listening to you guys nothing in America culture is remotely worth conserving.
Conserving some things like nature and building is considered liberal. Go figure. The Swiss are big into conserving nature, and architecture which would make them raving liberals in US.
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