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Old 02-15-2014, 12:18 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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LOL! Ok.

When the GOP inevitably regains power (as cycles always happen) and uses the IRS to intimidate liberals, will you then say "look, nothing bad is happening, you have to prove it's for partisan purposes, blah blah"?

Hell no, You'll be screaming mad at the top of your lungs.


It's too bad that your devotion is to party, not truth, to expediency, not liberty.
Nope, i will say exactly what I am saying right now. These people you are talking about are trying to apply for tax exempt status, and both they and Liberals groups have been questioned and audited. It isnt political, it is the job of the IRS, and when it happens under a republican president then it will be just the same.

do not project your ability to be unbiased on others.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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Saying its wrong is not enough, show me a better definition of capitalism.
There's one previous to this...

Capitalism is a system of enforced property rights, individual economic rights, and the ability to enforce contracts.

Fascism included private ownership of the means of production... but it violated all the rest.

Presently America is almost indistinguishable from fascism - but only in that the power to control the media is still technically illegal and done by bullying instead.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:20 PM
 
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They have a very strong central government. They control much of what goes on there or at least have their fingers in it.
At least having their fingers in it doesn't cut it. More example of countries with weak central governments: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. Is that what you're aiming for?
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:21 PM
 
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Nope, i will say exactly what I am saying right now. These people you are talking about are trying to apply for tax exempt status, and both they and Liberals groups have been questioned and audited. It isnt political, it is the job of the IRS, and when it happens under a republican president then it will be just the same.

do not project your ability to be unbiased on others.
I do not believe that for one second.

You are so blindly partisan that your behavior can be predicted down to fine details.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:22 PM
 
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I based my opinion of which party you stood with based on your previous comments. And you are still side stepping your own rhetoric.
The ones where I slammed McCain and Graham while defending the ACLU?

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like it or not, alot of your ideas and beliefs do fall in line with the Republican Party. So yes, people will think of you as a republican. You took offense to that and went on attack mode for no good reason. You could have simply corrected me and moved on, instead you chose to act like a child an throw petty insults.
Some do and I am quick to note that where they do rarely do the Republicans actually follow through so I can not support them.

I also have sided with OWS. As noted, the ACLU many times (not every time).

While it wasn't recent I also sided with the Democrats when they complained about Bush when he argued that he could just throw American citizens in prison and forget their due process rights. Unfortunately they have not followed up on that idea either.

So yes, when I agree with someone I will say so, regardless of their current party or past positions.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:22 PM
 
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At least having their fingers in it doesn't cut it. More example of countries with weak central governments: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. Is that what you're aiming for?
Sure.

Since you don't want an honest discussion about it and you're going to just make everything up, make up the worst scenario you can think of and accuse me of it.

It's what you're going to do anyway, since you haven't the ability to debate the merits of anything.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:24 PM
 
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At least having their fingers in it doesn't cut it. More example of countries with weak central governments: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. Is that what you're aiming for?
You can't prove "more" until you prove your initial assessment.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:25 PM
 
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Again bud, read about the history of early us and why it was absolutely necessary to have a strong federal government. Lol
No, it never was.

The Constitution created a VERY limited central government with very few and very limited authorities.

And, when we strayed from it, we started downhill. In every way... legally, culturally, economically, and morally.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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There's one previous to this...

Capitalism is a system of enforced property rights, individual economic rights, and the ability to enforce contracts.
Where did you get this definition from? Its nonsensical as it doesn't explain anything specifically what are the property rights that it enforces, what are the individual economic rights and what ability to enforce contracts it talks about.
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:28 PM
 
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Sure.

Since you don't want an honest discussion about it and you're going to just make everything up, make up the worst scenario you can think of and accuse me of it.

It's what you're going to do anyway, since you haven't the ability to debate the merits of anything.

The problem is the Moderates and left wish to social engineer this country to a version of Socialism. The reality is these same groups think the rest of us is willing to pay the bills.

Their perceived fortunes will not be touched and they will keep on living the good life. The type of Socialism they advocate will have their money seized and no one will own property. Except the Gov.

That's the real problem!
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