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Old 03-31-2014, 05:32 PM
 
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I've already laughed my ass off at you for posting these links NUMEROUS times but never responding to the retorts.

I refuse to believe that someone who claims to be self employed, believes that employees benefits are subsidies, granted only because of the kindness of the federal government.

No one can be that dumb.. NO ONE
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Well, let's talk a bit about dishonesty. I was responding to when you said this:

I never claimed they were newly insured, I said that they could get insurance on the exchanges if they lost their employer based insurance, and you agreed.
The Democrats run around non stop broadcasting the 6-7 million signups they received while ignoring the millions who lost..

Math lesson, 6 million lose, + 6 million new = how many net gain?

And yes, the ultimate end will be more than 6 million, but for what we're spending, its a joke.
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Who is abandoning it? Read Cruz's Facebook page. Doesn't sound like people are abandoning it to me.
Going to UHC would be abandoning it, and many on that page, and YOU, have called for it to happen
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:49 PM
 
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I've already laughed my ass off at you for posting these links NUMEROUS times but never responding to the retorts.
You laugh your ass off a lot, but all your ass laughing it doesn't change the fact that employer based healthcare is subsidized.

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Going to UHC would be abandoning it, and many on that page, and YOU, have called for it to happen
Going to UHC would be another step forward. But for now, I'm perfectly happy to keep my private insurance until that happens. It sure is better than not having insurance. That's not abandoning anything, that's simply using what is available at the moment until UHC comes along.
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:55 PM
 
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You laugh your ass off a lot, but all your ass laughing it doesn't change the fact that employer based healthcare is subsidized.
No its not. Its a business expense, and all business expenses are treated equal. its no more a subsidy than McDonalds buying hamburger meat is..

If you're self employed, and you dont know that, then clearly something is wrong.
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Going to UHC would be another step forward. But for now, I'm perfectly happy to keep my private insurance until that happens. It sure is better than not having insurance. That's not abandoning anything, that's simply using what is available at the moment until UHC comes along.
Like I said, you're all ready to abandon ACA.

You had a choice to go without insurance.. If you couldnt afford it, then maybe you need to re-examine the first paragraph above..

http://reason.com/archives/2011/05/1...etween-a-tax-b

Stop embarassing yourself by making such stupid claims
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:01 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 24 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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HHS told the press the site went down because of "high demand".
Their people will "slowly bring it back up"

Thank God these people don't operate online banking, ATMs or any online bill paying software

Healthcare.gov Goes Offline as Last-Minute Applicants Flock to Site | NBC4 Washington
According to a statement from the Department of Health and Human Services, "The tech team will gradually bring the site online in order to meet the high consumer demand once the issue is resolved."
Oh please, i bank with Regions and Online banking goes down atleast twice a week.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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You laugh your ass off a lot, but all your ass laughing it doesn't change the fact that employer based healthcare is subsidized.



Going to UHC would be another step forward. But for now, I'm perfectly happy to keep my private insurance until that happens. It sure is better than not having insurance. That's not abandoning anything, that's simply using what is available at the moment until UHC comes along.
Insurance for the self-employed is NOT subsidized.

It is 100% deductible.......that is NOT the same thing.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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Insurance for the self-employed is NOT subsidized.

It is 100% deductible.......that is NOT the same thing.
She's been told that at least 1/2 a dozen times already. Everytime healthcare comes up she starts whining some bull crap that its as a result of some sort of subsidy..

she eventually stops responding, and then a few days later, posts the very same ridiculous thing again.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:07 PM
Status: "We need America back!" (set 3 days ago)
 
Location: Suburban Dallas
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Hmmm...say it ain't so.

From CNBC - "Hours before the deadline for enrolling, the online page for enrolling in Obamacare went down Monday."

Healthcare.gov website application and enrollment system down on deadline day


On purpose, of course. I feel sorry for those who are gullible enough to fall for this government crap trap. People will just be begging for help from an insurance company still in business.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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No its not. Its a business expense, and all business expenses are treated equal. its no more a subsidy than McDonalds buying hamburger meat is..
Ah, I see. So when employees are offered employer health insurance they pay the full premium. Right?
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:14 PM
 
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Insurance for the self-employed is NOT subsidized.
Read the links.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:17 PM
 
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Ah, I see. So when employees are offered employer health insurance they pay the full premium. Right?
Who? The employee? Of course not, its part of ones salary, and its tax exempt just like a self employed individual can claim them on Schedule A..

Being a tax deduction doesnt = a subsidy..

Did you even read the link I posted before you said something this dumb?
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