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Old 04-05-2014, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Where it's cold in winter.
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The 1st grants no protection against private retribution in reaction to speech.
Did you read the article? It appears you did not.

 
Old 04-05-2014, 05:46 AM
 
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Yes, Eich, by all accounts does not discriminate in the work environment. His entire life has been dedicated, as has Mozilla as a company to the freedom of the internet.

But, he is a supporter - at the one time - of traditional marriage. If speech can be limited and punished, can thought control be that far? Was he strident, vociferous and mean in his support of traditional marriage? No. For that he had to punished.

Glaad is the true hater here.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 06:02 AM
 
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Did you read the article? It appears you did not.
Did you read the 1st amendment? It appears you did not.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 06:03 AM
 
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Yes, Eich, by all accounts does not discriminate in the work environment. His entire life has been dedicated, as has Mozilla as a company to the freedom of the internet.

But, he is a supporter - at the one time - of traditional marriage. If speech can be limited and punished, can thought control be that far? Was he strident, vociferous and mean in his support of traditional marriage? No. For that he had to punished.

Glaad is the true hater here.
Did you not realise that he was only CEO for 2 weeks before he resigned?

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/04/how-mozilla-lost-its-ceo-brendan-eich.html

I'd say spending $1000 to promote a bill that "Eliminates the Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry" was rather 'mean'.

Clearly it's not the company image that Mozilla wanted to project.

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Old 04-05-2014, 06:08 AM
 
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Did you not realise that he was only CEO for 2 weeks before he resigned?

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/04/how-mozilla-lost-its-ceo-brendan-eich.html
He helped found Mozilla in 1998, where he was the chief architect. The more you know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich
 
Old 04-05-2014, 06:16 AM
 
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I always love it when people try to creatively redefine the freedom of speech.

The freedom of speech does not protect people from critics, it protects the claimants and the critics speech from government retribution. It does not protect a company from boycotts, people have the right to buy products (or donate their time/money) where they please. It doesn't force others to support people's speech. It doesn't force a company to keep you if the company feels your speech is harming its image.

What always gets me is that people claim pro-gay rights groups are bigots for speaking against groups, or boycotting, but anti-gay groups (like One Million Moms) doing the exact same thing not only are exempt...they get praised. These people don't get that the rest of the world sees the hypocrisy and the only people they are fooling is themselves. Self delusion is a powerful tool for hatred.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 06:16 AM
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Location: Florida
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First: All rights are limited, a fact that anyone with a bit of logic would know innately, since rights often conflict with each other, as in the Prop 8 case. In that case, basic human rights such as the right to marry whom you love have primacy over the right of bigots to inflict the ramifications of their petty, vindictive, and self-serving intolerance onto others.

Second: The First Amendment assures that government cannot enact any law impeding free speech. Eich spoke. The government didn't stop him from speaking, nor did the government punish him for speaking. The government didn't legally sanction him or his company. The government didn't endorse or support the impact on the company from Eich's offensive comments.

Right-wingers always seem to see everything from the own corrupted perspective: Their own free speech = good; the free speech of those who disagree with them = bad. With such inanely self-serving claptrap as the mainstay of their rhetoric, I expect to see loads more nonsense spewed by the egoistic right-wing on this matter.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 06:20 AM
 
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Leftists ALWAYS demand totalitarian control of the populations they rule.

This is just another step towards that for them.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 06:23 AM
 
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Again, why wasn't this simply put in the long thread that was already in place on this subject? Your opinion isn't so special as to need it's own thread.
 
Old 04-05-2014, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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The mistake he made was in stepping down.

He should have done exactly what Nick Cannon did when people jumped on him about his latest album: Laughed!

Idiotic organizations like Glaad survive only because we let them. Ignore them, laugh at them, stop feeding them, and they'll shut up and go away. Let the butt hurt screamers scream. When they don't get the attention they want, they'll move on.
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