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Old 12-09-2014, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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why are they posting this stuff? what is the purpose?? who does it serve? sometimes I think it is true we are plain stupid, I see no good come out of this. We have stopped the tactics - so why are we bringing up old stuff?
To inform the American people exactly what the CIA and our government was up to so it doesn't happen again. Feinstein and others were infuriated at some of the actions by the CIA and she is normally a supporter and one of the more reasonable democrats, this is just the summary that was scrubbed from the 60,000 pages.

What's the purpose of holding the CIA accountable for it's actions the last 10 years?
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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I am not happy at all. I am ashamed on behalf of the nation that has been my home for the last decade. I am ashamed that this was done in my name.

We were tested on the courage of our convictions, the strength of our principles. As a nation, we failed. There is nothing to be happy about here.
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This can ONLY be true if everyone follows our rules....and they don't.....
Ehm - no. Principles are what rules your behavior when faced with an opponent who won't remain civilized. It's only when it would be oh-so-expedient, so tempting to take the barbaric shortcut - and you refrain - that you get credit for having them . If you abandon your ideals when they become inconvenient, you never truly held them. You were just a barbarian who could afford the pretense as long as you held the upper hand.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:02 PM
 
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The two party partisan system and political tactics has unnecessarily put Americans in danger. Our politicicians are appalling.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:02 PM
 
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The GC only applies to human beings. It doesn't apply to monsters. These guys are merciless relentless killers. They don't deserve any human consideration.

Their goal in life is to kill you and you're worried about your reputation.
We're better than them. If not, the fight would be pointless.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:03 PM
 
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When the jihadists release their next video of them beheading an American, while stating that this is revenge for our "torture" techniques, I hope Ms. Finestien and the senate democrats and anyone who supports it has trouble sleeping.
The people who authorized and carried out the torture? No? Their hands are clean?
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:04 PM
 
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Maybe, but we have become like them.
Fight fire with fire, or get burned.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:05 PM
 
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The two party partisan system and political tactics has unnecessarily put Americans in danger. Our politicicians are appalling.
Resorting to torture and p.ssing on everything supposed to be American has put Americans in danger.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:06 PM
 
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Fight fire with fire, or get burned.
Another vote for expediency. Do you guys have any standards?
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:07 PM
 
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why are they posting this stuff? what is the purpose?? who does it serve? sometimes I think it is true we are plain stupid, I see no good come out of this. We have stopped the tactics - so why are we bringing up old stuff?
To keep future administrations from crossing that line.
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:09 PM
 
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The people who authorized and carried out the torture? No? Their hands are clean?
Clean? No. protecting Americans against terrorist that have a sole purpose of killing Americans is not clean. You are deluding yourself if you think it can be done cleanly.

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