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Prove the wedding party was the primary target and not a mistake.
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"A deadly attack on illegitimate targets amounts to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment if, as in this case, it results in serious physical or mental pain and suffering for the innocent victims,"
The headline from your own link: "Yemen: UN experts condemn drone strikes on mistaken wedding processions."
Yep, mistaken targets is the very definition of collateral damage. Kind of like the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians who were killed in George Bush's invasion. That's what happens in war, though I don't see you shed any tears for them.
All of which has nothing to do with the subject of this thread, which is George Bush's torture chambers. Feel free to continue to chase your tail around in circles, though, because that's what you do.
Well, whatever your personal views/politics/etc., I think I can say with reasonable certainty that torture and mistreatment of the enemy will continue long after the current unpleasantness fades from memory. Is it the moral thing to do? No. Even our nice, agreeable friends to the North don't have clean hands in recent memory:
The headline from your own link: "Yemen: UN experts condemn drone strikes on mistaken wedding processions."
It wasn't mistaken. It was a wedding procession. Striking a military target is one thing; this was a wedding procession. What was the military target? Even the UN condemned it. That should tell you something...
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I hate radical Islam. That's why I'm against torture, illegal wars / drone strikes, and strong arming our allies into aiding our bad behavior. NO useful info comes from torturing someone, they will tell you whatever you want to hear. And then the radical groups use torture to increase recruitment.
It seems some people think the only choices are torture or let them live on an beach with a fruity drink. You can still make life hard for them w/o breaking international laws
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As used in this chapter—
(1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;
(2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from— (A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering;
(B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality;
(C) the threat of imminent death; or
(D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality; and
(3) “United States” means the several States of the United States, the District of Columbia, and the commonwealths, territories, and possessions of the United States.
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In some cases it is. More pertinently anything that is intentionally used to inflict suffering with the intention of obtaining cooperation or information while that person is under the jurisdiction of a signatory nation of the UN Convention Against Torture, is classified IN LAW as torture. Ir could be painting their toenails red, if the intention is to inflict suffering to obtain cooperation or information it is torture. The US signed this on 18th April 1988
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thank you
so having the threat of taxes, is BY LAW..torture
having the threat of a mandated purchase (aca) is BY LAW ..torture
letting a liberal speak is torture
THE WAY THAT LAW IS WRITTEN, ANYTHING CAN BE CONSIDERED TORTURE
SEE UNDERLINED IN LAW....means even using a 'truth serum' or lsd is torture...heck giving the guy a joint would be torture the way that law is written
see orange....so the threat of the death penalty through trail...is torture the way the law is written
and yes I too have been waterborded..and have been through the SERE course
personally, I would have rather the CIA used knives of those malicious terrorists
btw waterboarding has been used for decades and is still a viable form of interrogation, that the current admin also uses
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