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If it makes you feel better to believe you are well off at that level of income so be it. Maybe you live with your parents and someone is helping you out. I do taxes for some people who are in that class, who live independently, and I know what they pay, exactly. That doesn't include of course the "other" taxes. People have different levels of expenses, and medical bills are killers that eat up what these people might be able to contribute to 401K. Now it only be over 10% of income that can be included in medical deductions.
They are not doing well. No LIE.
I'm 24 years old. I have no right to complain about my financial situation. You won't see me going boo-hoo about single folks that make $40-50K / year that ***** about not being able to live. Like I said, they need to look in the mirror. Life really isn't that complicated.
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And there it is, the liberals' favorite mantra... "You have to pay more tax because we think you can afford to."
You can afford to. If you can't allocate 9.5% of your gross to health insurance, you need to make some personal budget changes.
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Exactly. I had a liberal trying to convince me that kids getting 3 free meals 5 or 6 days a week at school (many schools have Saturday and Summer programs, solely I suspect to feed the kids who aren't getting fed at home) PLUS their parents getting food stamp benefits for those exact same meals wasn't double dipping.
How stupid do you have to be to not see the scam?
Yes, welfare is such a glamorous life!!!!
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Care to comment on the $2 trillion worth of redistribution per year from the top 40% to everyone else, with the top 1% alone paying 1/2 of that, or $1 trillion worth?
Redistribution is the main purpose of taxes. This isn't new.
Yes, my 18 year old son just out of high school made less than $7000 last year and he had to pay taxes. He's ready to lead a taxpayer revolt --- any girl his age getting knocked up is not only not going to have to pay a dime but is going to be getting a nice hefty EITC check. In addition to all the free housing, food stamps, free Medicaid.
Very very unfair system that rewards irresponsibility and punishes a work ethic.
when my sister in law seperated from her husband awhile back, she didnt even care if he paid child support or not. She said the EITC she received was more than child support he could have afforded to pay for 3 kids.
Now the son is old enough and moving out, and she's trying to find out if her insurance will pay to untie her tubes so she can have another kid..
You can afford to. If you can't allocate 9.5% of your gross to health insurance, you need to make some personal budget changes.
If you are now able to speak for everyone elses financial situation, then why arent you insisting that those who are receiving subsidies, contribute the same amount rather than receive handouts?
Clearly 9.5% of their gross income would be far less expensive than those who are paying to subsidies others, correct?
This I have to hear. Your relationship status bases on everything from your car insurance rates to the taxes you pay to the money you make. If you got around all that, please share.
This I have to hear. Your relationship status bases on everything from your car insurance rates to the taxes you pay to the money you make. If you got around all that, please share.
Taxes are to fund the government, not others.. Where the hell do you come up with this crap?
The problem is -- that poster is right -- that's how it is now.
Some lazy person wants to get out of working there are many easy ways. Welfare is now a lifestyle choice, have kids you can't afford -- big rewards waiting for you. Claim some sort of emotional disability and there's all kinds of free money coming your way.
Work hard and bam!! The government is going to try to destroy you, it will confiscate whatever portion of your income it likes -- because it's got a fast growing welfare class that wants the good easy life.
If you are now able to speak for everyone elses financial situation, then why arent you insisting that those who are receiving subsidies, contribute the same amount rather than receive handouts?
Clearly 9.5% of their gross income would be far less expensive than those who are paying to subsidies others, correct?
If you are receiving a subsidy, it is because 9.5% of your gross income is less than the total cost of the health insurance premium. Hence... why it is subsidized.
You are conflating things. The premium costs X. Your subsidy is X- (9.5% of AGI). If the subsidy value is negative, you are a giver.
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No its not..
Taxes are to fund the government, not others.. Where the hell do you come up with this crap?
Taxes do not fund the government. Taxes are purely for deflation and redistribution of resources (money).
Plus people with kids need schools, safe roads and infrastructure way more than single people do.
This is probably the first tax thread I've ever joined because single people do get the shaft. The government continues to subsidize child-birth despite not having enough decent jobs for them, and not having an empty country to populate like it's 1945.
I doubt it will change, both parties are ga ga for goo goos (babies).
Are you saying that single people don't need schools, safe roads and infrastructure as much as people with children? Come on! These things benefit EVERYONE. Imagine what our country would be like if we didn't provide schools. There would be more crime, less qualified people to create jobs or even get a job, and far more taxes from you to keep them from starving. And it should go without saying that even childless people want safe roads and infrastructure.
The problem is -- that poster is right -- that's how it is now.
Some lazy person wants to get out of working there are many easy ways. Welfare is now a lifestyle choice, have kids you can't afford -- big rewards waiting for you. Claim some sort of emotional disability and there's all kinds of free money coming your way.
Work hard and bam!! The government is going to try to destroy you, it will confiscate whatever portion of your income it likes -- because it's got a fast growing welfare class that wants the good easy life.
Are you kidding me?
Have you ever met someone on welfare? These discussions are absolutely pathetic. People on welfare are not living some glamorous life that a middle class person would be envious of. If they are, they have perfected the art of welfare fraud.
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