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Old 04-30-2014, 05:12 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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All it takes is one horse sized dose of any one of those injections.

They don't need a cocktail if they just jack him up full of one ingredient.

Frankly I don't care. His victims suffered before they died, and died prematurely by his hand.

Screw em. Good riddance.
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:14 PM
 
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Evidently, the drugs used do make difference or else the state of Oklahoma wouldn't have hidden the drugs.

To me giving the government the power over life and death is too much power, and state killings are legal, but

state governments can't kill people inhumanely.

Now either someone who supports state executions agrees with this, or they support state sanctioned torture.

I'll let you in or a little secret, governments that torture people as a matter of law are horrible governments to be ruled by.
If the governor had walked in and said fine, firing squad it is and the lawyers would have packed up with a win I wouldn't question their motives. I doubt that would have happened.
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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ok and? Who runs the state of Oklahoma government? conservatives Let's not kid ourselves generally speaking this is the kind of state sponsored power that conservatives love.
I didn't see a large segment of the left complaining when Obama argued he could drop a bomb on the head (to be more precise in the vicinity) of American citizens based upon his say so.

There were a few and some of them also complain here. All due respect to them.
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:21 PM
 
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I've wanted a guillotine for years in front of the court house. Has nothing to do with any drugs. You are the ones crying about the drugs.
No, I'm arguing that the drug issue is largely a straw man.

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I think this clown should have suffered longer. Maybe get em addicted to heroin and let em flip out and overdose. Would probably cost less and get rid of em. Some who do things like this guy did lose their chance to live in our society. Sad but true. You defend them for some reason.
No, I condemn those who say "Kill him, kill him and make him suffer on top of it".
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:23 PM
 
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If the governor had walked in and said fine, firing squad it is and the lawyers would have packed up with a win I wouldn't question their motives. I doubt that would have happened.
Firing squad? You think these conservatives are so blood thirsty to kill people that they'll suggest firing squads if they can't get the drugs needed to humanely kill people?

Wow, conservatives get more insane each passing day. Smh.
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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I'm not okay with the suffering, but let's get real here. This was the State of Oklahoma's fault! They should have given a higher dose. Didn't they consult with anyone about the proper lethal dosage for a man of his height and weight? Why wasn't there an IV? I'm not at all familiar with how these things work, but I would think that if there was an IV they could have at least given him more drug to end his suffering.
You might want to read up on what happened. Right after this story hit last night's news, they said the man's veins collapsed/exploded.

It had nothing to do with the State of Oklahoma.
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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ok and? Who runs the state of Oklahoma government? conservatives Let's not kid ourselves generally speaking this is the kind of state sponsored power that conservatives love.
lolol. This is the next best thing to "it's Bush's fault".

They never stop, do they?

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Old 04-30-2014, 05:25 PM
 
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Firing squad? You think these conservatives are so blood thirsty to kill people that they'll suggest firing squads if they can't get the drugs needed to humanely kill people?

Wow, conservatives get more insane each passing day. Smh.
Its how we are killing thousands in other countries every day.
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:27 PM
 
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I didn't see a large segment of the left complaining when Obama argued he could drop a bomb on the head (to be more precise in the vicinity) of American citizens based upon his say so.

There were a few and some of them also complain here. All due respect to them.
This is not about President Obama. Stay on topic.
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Old 04-30-2014, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Omaha/Lincoln, NE
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I understand the visceral revenge factor, and this guy was obviously a POS, but the job of the criminal justice system should be to be as cold and emotionless as possible and not take emotion into the equation. If executions are to be allowed, they should be as quick and painless as possible, just a procedure that does the job efficiently

As to the death penalty itself, I would have no problem with using it in the most heinous of crimes (murder, rape of a minor) IF the criminal justice system was 100% accurate and never convicted innocent people. HOWEVER, that is not the case, there have been plenty of people on Death Row later found innocent, so I can't in good conscience support it
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