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To be honest the whole macabre incident the other day with veins exploding, screaming and him sitting upright after 13 minutes was like something from some horror film or Nazi experiment.
Why a complicated 3 drug combination? Dogs are put down humanely with 1 drug.
Because in some, the first drug might wear off before the patient has died. That seems to be what happened to this guy. He got the Versed, which might have caused him to sleep for a short time. After the versed, his IV infiltrated and the other drugs infused into his tissues instead of directly into his blood stream. He became conscious before the paralyzing drugs and potassium could be absorbed.
If I had to guess, perhaps this man pulled back as much as he could with his arm as the versed was being injected, thus displacing the needle out of the vein. Versed, given in high quantities, can cause stinging in the vein perhaps causing the man to pull back or twist his arm.
It's not just one though, there's been several cases, and the situation has become worse since the export ban of certain drugs used in executions to the US by the EU and other countries.
I still don't understand this. Why can't they just do what hospice workers do for terminal patients and give them high doses of morphine? I've seen it, and it seems very peaceful. Certainly more peaceful than what my uncle was going through before hospice was ordered. You can't believe the unimaginable pain terminal cancer causes in people. He prayed for death for weeks. It was awful. With the extra morphine, he just slept and died peacefully. If it's good enough for my beautiful uncle who in no way deserved that kind of death, it should be good enough for the monster who watched as a 19-year old girl was buried alive after he shot her.
I will again reiterate that Oklahoma did it all wrong by not giving enough of the cocktail of drugs in the first place, and then halting it altogether. If his veins exploded, then all the more reason someone should have put that guy out of his misery like any humane person would do for a dog or a horse. Watching him suffer like that for 45 minutes with no thought to end it nicely sounds not much better than what he did to his own victim.
If you put it this way, I would have to say that verdict is unclear.
"Whilst lethal injection is often thought of as the most humane method of execution, recent evidence is calling this assumption into question. A firing squad is certainly fast, but there is always the risk, however small, that a marksman will miss. Hanging has a similar potential for miscalculation, whilst suffocation and the electric chair can clearly cause undue suffering."
The game changer in terms of lethal injection is the fact that many US States can't get the drugs they need anymore following EU and other countries issuing a boycott due to their disapproval of capital punishment. Which means the best and most effective drugs aren't always available, and to use experimental cocktails and hope for the best is just not good enough, and if anything hands ammunition to those who oppose the death penalty.
Whilst I am not a supporter of the death penalty, if it is to be carried out, it should be quick, humane and effective, and this wasn't the case in Oklahoma and hasn't been the case in several other such executions using various cocktails of drugs to get around the international ban.
As for your link, even if hanging does go wrong you are not going to be alive 40 minutes later, and a good hangman can dispatch a person in seconds, and takes weight, height and other calculations in to consideration. The same is true of firing squads, they rarely leave a person alive and are very quick and effective.
Because in some, the first drug might wear off before the patient has died. That seems to be what happened to this guy. He got the Versed, which might have caused him to sleep for a short time. After the versed, his IV infiltrated and the other drugs infused into his tissues instead of directly into his blood stream. He became conscious before the paralyzing drugs and potassium could be absorbed.
If I had to guess, perhaps this man pulled back as much as he could with his arm as the versed was being injected, thus displacing the needle out of the vein. Versed, given in high quantities, can cause stinging in the vein perhaps causing the man to pull back or twist his arm.
Although I am sure most are scared of the injection this man seemed to be particularly concerned about the lethal injection. I am curious if his heightened adrenaline could play a factor?
I know. We need to do away with capital punishment already.
And denying someone their last meal because it's too expensive when they're about to be executed is unbelievably petty. You can barely eat at Chili's for $15 anymore. Ugh. Stay classy Oklahoma.
What about the "class" this worthless POS showed poor Ms Nieman??? Maybe they should have let him go and he could live at your house?? There you could treat him to any of OK finer restaurants!!! I could recommend a few if you'd like!!
this man seemed to be particularly concerned about the lethal injection.
And this matters why?
Maybe he should have been a little more concerned about the condition and fears of his victim.
The very idea that we give two hoots about "his concerns", is grotesque.
Society owes him nothing. Society DOES owe itself... the act of getting rid of this guy as quickly and conveniently (for society) as it can, while only making sure the method is not "cruel or unusual". And most executions methods - guillotine, injection, firing squald, hanging, etc. - fill the bill just fine.
Guillotine is quick, easy, and the least likely to fail. It gets my vote. And if this guy is "particularly concerned".... well, the guillotine will cure that, too.
Maybe he should have been a little more concerned about the condition and fears of his victim.
The very idea that we give two hoots about "his concerns", is grotesque.
Society owes him nothing. Society DOES owe itself... the act of getting rid of this guy as quickly and conveniently (for society) as it can, while only making sure the method is not "cruel or unusual". And most executions methods - guillotine, injection, firing squald, hanging, etc. - fill the bill just fine.
Guillotine is quick, easy, and the least likely to fail. It gets my vote. And if this guy is "particularly concerned".... well, the guillotine will cure that, too.
Problem solved.
Relax, I am not expressing sympathy for him, just curious if his body's reactions contributed to the problem.
The game changer in terms of lethal injection is the fact that many US States can't get the drugs they need anymore following EU and other countries issuing a boycott due to their disapproval of capital punishment. Which means the best and most effective drugs aren't always available, and to use experimental cocktails and hope for the best is just not good enough, and if anything hands ammunition to those who oppose the death penalty.
Whilst I am not a supporter of the death penalty, if it is to be carried out, it should be quick, humane and effective, and this wasn't the case in Oklahoma and hasn't been the case in several other such executions using various cocktails of drugs to get around the international ban.
As for your link, even if hanging does go wrong you are not going to be alive 40 minutes later, and a good hangman can dispatch a person in seconds, and takes weight, height and other calculations in to consideration. The same is true of firing squads, they rarely leave a person alive and are very quick and effective.
Can you imagine being a hangman or the person who administers these lethal cocktails of drugs? What a gruesome profession! What do they tell people when they ask what that person does for a living? I imagine the party invitations dry up very quickly when people know their profession.
Can you imagine being a hangman or the person who administers these lethal cocktails of drugs? What a gruesome profession! What do they tell people when they ask what that person does for a living? I imagine the party invitations dry up very quickly when people know their profession.
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