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Old 04-30-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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I wish he had been buried alive like his victim. He got off easy.
Sounds like he sort of was....how does that make us better than him?
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Sounds like he sort of was....how does that make us better than him?
Nonsense. He raped, shot and buried alive a 19 year old girl. His death by comparison was easy. My compassion is for her parents that will always live with the knowledge of her suffering at the hands of this monster who lived an additional 15 years after her murder.
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:12 PM
 
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Nonsense. He raped, shot and buried alive a 19 year old girl. His death by comparison was easy. My compassion is for her parents that will always live with the knowledge of her suffering at the hands of this monster who lived an additional 15 years after her murder.
I understand the feelings of her parents. I don't yours. It's wrong for him to kill, but you get a kick out of it and all is well.
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:14 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Maybe a little karma at work here.
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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My brother-in-law was tortured and murdered. I and his parents didn't wish for an agonizing death or torture for his convicted murderers.
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I understand the feelings of her parents. I don't yours. It's wrong for him to kill, but you get a kick out of it and all is well.
As a person who lost a family member to violence I would have gladly pulled the trigger on the perpetrator myself, as I’m sure any parent would if given a chance.

It’s so easy to have compassion when it wasn’t your young daughter who was raped and buried alive….

Some murderers violate the social contract with such viciousness that they don’t deserve any compassion. I’m all for airing the hideous details of their acts at the time of their execution, just so we don’t ever forget what some people are capable of.
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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As a person who lost a family member to violence I would have gladly pulled the trigger on the perpetrator myself, as I’m sure any parent would if given a chance.
Probably so. If it had been my daughter and I was able to get close enough with a baseball bat, I can imagine bashing his head in. That doesn't mean as a society we should condone that. If things fell apart and my kids were hungry I might steal some food. I don't think as a society we should condone theft.

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It’s so easy to have compassion when it wasn’t your young daughter who was raped and buried alive….
I have no compassion for him. It's not about him.

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Some murderers violate the social contract with such viciousness that they don’t deserve any compassion. I’m all for airing the hideous details of their acts at the time of their execution, just so we don’t ever forget what some people are capable of.
Putting a bullet through the head of someone strapped to a gurney?
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Old 04-30-2014, 01:45 PM
 
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I think my reading is fine. You support putting the bullet through the head of some guy strapped to a table.
What I said is far more humane than watching the guy suffer waiting for the heart attack. You said I was bloodthirsty for saying the guy should be put out of his misery. Obviously once the drugs start, they can't be stopped. The difference is how long will it take.

And I won't apologize for thinking the guy should have his sentence carried out. He did the crime and it was extremely cruel. He was tried and convicted by a judge and jury. He had several years to appeal the decision. Now he paid for his crime, with the added benefit of getting peace if he believed in penance and salvation. Obviously he wasn't at peace and was very scared going in, but imagine that 19-year old girl watching her own grave being dug and then shot and buried in it alive. She could feel the dirt being shoveled back in on her face and body. So who is the bloodthirsty one here?
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:01 PM
 
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What I said is far more humane than watching the guy suffer waiting for the heart attack. You said I was bloodthirsty for saying the guy should be put out of his misery. Obviously once the drugs start, they can't be stopped. The difference is how long will it take.

And I won't apologize for thinking the guy should have his sentence carried out. He did the crime and it was extremely cruel.
But you seem to think putting a bullet through the head of someone strapped to a gurney is humane. This is my entire point.

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He was tried and convicted by a judge and jury. He had several years to appeal the decision. Now he paid for his crime, with the added benefit of getting peace if he believed in penance and salvation. Obviously he wasn't at peace and was very scared going in, but imagine that 19-year old girl watching her own grave being dug and then shot and buried in it alive. She could feel the dirt being shoveled back in on her face and body. So who is the bloodthirsty one here?
You, the other guy isn't here and is dead.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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I find it amusing that many of the same people who scream and cry about any sort of gun control being a violation of their Second Amendment rights don't seem to have a problem violating the Eighth Amendment with all this talk of torturous death, being glad the guy suffered a particularly heinous death, and so on and so forth...

I'm not talking about the fact that the guy was executed - that is a different argument. I'm talking about the fact that by a matter of making the guy suffer for 45 minutes, the Eighth Amendment was violated and, yet, these same "Constitutionalists" don't seem to care.... In fact, they seem to revel in it.
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