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You're the one trying to use a 'random tragedy' as conclusive evidence of a 'dangerous gun culture'. The truth is that the places with the strongest gun control in the US are the least safe. Chicago, DC - how's that gun control working there? Kennesaw, GA - one of the safest places in America where it's the law to own a gun.
I am guessing you're the type that would advocate wide scale gun confiscation. Do you know what that would accomplish? Only the criminals having guns. That's the country you want to live in? I do not favor the heavy hand of socialism like Sweden. Oh and our Constitution doesn't either as evidenced by the Second Amendment. The reality is that you'll never get all of the guns, especially out of the hands of those criminals. So why would you choose to leave the law abiding citizens defenseless? That's irresponsible in the extreme.
Comparing a small city such as Kennesaw, GA to one of the largest cities in the US if not the world is an argument that is specious at best, but according to most academics one that is nothing more than false.
As someone who has worked extensively in poor, urban neighborhoods I can tell you your assumptions are wrong. The guns the people here get just don't magically appear. They are all made legally by gun manufacturers. If they were not made in the first place there would be no guns for the criminals.
You could learn a lot from Sweden. Sweden one of the happiest countries in the world. The US one of the lowest. Sweden has the 2nd least wealth inequality in the world. The US ranks 178th, behind the entire African continent. The Swedish healthcare system is ranked 9th in the world, the US is 57th behind Venezuela and Cuba. The Swedish education system is one of the best in world, the US ranks 37th. And some American schools such as those in the poor areas in the American South are some of the worst in the world.
You can lampoon socialism all you want. Sit in your beautiful Southern home, celebrating the vestiges of a culture that enslaved a whole race of people and them oppressed them for another 100 years after, wrap yourself in patriotism and a sense of American exceptionalism and you'll never know that there are countries in the world that may in fact have better systems than the US. Perhaps you should broaden your world view before you condemn countries that are in a much better place than the US.
I do have an issue with Mr. Kaarma firing blindly into the garage. He broke the 2nd rule of gun safety - Identify your target and what it behind it.
I agree. Fewer and fewer people respect property rights.
No. More respect = less tragedy. Mr. Dede made the choice to enter Mr. Kaarma's garage. No one forced him to. He was 18 years old and in the US considered an adult. He did not think past his on selfish interest in finding someone else's property to take. Every decision we make has a consequence. Some good and in this case, some bad.
I have no sympathy for the older Mr. Dede. He did not teach his son to respect the property of others.
Yes I suppose Mr. Dede should've taught him that when visit America you should never set foot in someone else's yard or you will be shot.
I'm glad I didn't grow up in a neighborhood like this.
Comparing a small city such as Kennesaw, GA to one of the largest cities in the US if not the world is an argument that is specious at best, but according to most academics one that is nothing more than false.
As someone who has worked extensively in poor, urban neighborhoods I can tell you your assumptions are wrong. The guns the people here get just don't magically appear. They are all made legally by gun manufacturers. If they were not made in the first place there would be no guns for the criminals.
You could learn a lot from Sweden. Sweden one of the happiest countries in the world. The US one of the lowest. Sweden has the 2nd least wealth inequality in the world. The US ranks 178th, behind the entire African continent. The Swedish healthcare system is ranked 9th in the world, the US is 57th behind Venezuela and Cuba. The Swedish education system is one of the best in world, the US ranks 37th. And some American schools such as those in the poor areas in the American South are some of the worst in the world.
You can lampoon socialism all you want. Sit in your beautiful Southern home, celebrating the vestiges of a culture that enslaved a whole race of people and them oppressed them for another 100 years after, wrap yourself in patriotism and a sense of American exceptionalism and you'll never know that there are countries in the world that may in fact have better systems than the US. Perhaps you should broaden your world view before you condemn countries that are in a much better place than the US.
Do you honestly think a system like Sweden could ever work in the US? Seriously?? Let's just ignore the homogeneous population of Sweden and the small size of the country both geographically and population wise to the US.
I deal in realities. The realities is that we have the Second Amendment and that's not even getting into the impracticality of confiscating those guns even if you tried. We have proven litmus tests of how very strict gun control does not work in the US (e.g. Chicago, DC). So no, I reject your proposal that we 'be like Sweden'. It was fair for you to say that Kennesaw is too small a sample to compare on a macro scale. Same goes for Sweden versus the US.
ETA: You should probably not assume things about people you do not know. My great-something Grandmother was a slave on a Savannah plantation. I think I have a pretty good grasp on my Southern region but thanks for making a totally baseless statement.
Yes, and the kids who stole the pot have now been apprehended and will be prosecuted. A kid who didn't actually take anything is now dead. Do you see anything wrong with this picture?
Yes I suppose Mr. Dede should've taught him that when visit America you should never set foot in someone else's yard or you will be shot.
I'm glad I didn't grow up in a neighborhood like this.
Or even better, that you don't enter into another's home uninvited in a stealthy manner after dark and proceed to rummage through their belongings seeking to take something that hasn't been offered by the legal owner. Particularly in a land where people take both gun ownership and property rights quite seriously, and don't take kindly to thieves, or even those who appear to be thieves.
So by being glad about not growing up in such a neighborhood, you're advocating such behavior and in favor of having the ability to enter the homes of others at will without significant consequence?
Someone walking across my yard uninvited (trespass) will at most get yelled at. Someone entering my home uninvited (home invasion), especially at night when I and my family are probably asleep and at our most defenseless, is very likely to be shot on sight should I discover them.
You seem to have difficulty distinguishing the difference here between trespass and invasion.
Yes I suppose Mr. Dede should've taught him that when visit America you should never set foot in someone else's yard or you will be shot.
I'm glad I didn't grow up in a neighborhood like this.
As others have said, Mr. Dede was in the garage, not just the yard. I have neighborhood kids in my yard all of the time. One side is always knocking tennis balls over the fence and the other side will have a basketball roll half way to my house. No issues.
When they come to my house they come to the front door and ring the bell. When I go to their house, I do the same even if the garage door is open. That line goes from being their yard/driveway to their residence.
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