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Old 05-16-2014, 10:24 AM
 
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But.....there WAS damage.....someone violated the family's home.
So where does this end? If a six year old child wanders into your garage you just start shooting point blank and kill him/her

Sad to see what our society has come to.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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So where does this end? If a six year old child wanders into your garage you just start shooting point blank and kill him/her

Sad to see what our society has come to.
And what if it were a unicorn? A six year old is going to be in someone's garage, rifling through the homeowner's possession in the middle of the night? Seriously, all of these what ifs are absurd.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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And what if it were a unicorn? A six year old is going to be in someone's garage, rifling through the homeowner's possession in the middle of the night? Seriously, all of these what ifs are absurd.
No it assumption that challenges the patently uncivilized gun culture in some parts of the United States.

Less guns. Less tragedy.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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No it assumption that challenges the patently uncivilized gun culture in some parts of the United States.

Less guns. Less tragedy.
Which, I believe, was already shown to you to be untrue. Look up Kennesaw, GA. Tell me, is it safe? What's unique about it?
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:35 AM
 
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Which, I believe, was already shown to you to be untrue. Look up Kennesaw, GA. Tell me, is it safe? What's unique about it?
Look up Sweden where my family is from.

Random tragedies are not conclusive evidence of the point you are trying to make. Simple evaluation of statistics shows that countries with high levels of gun control and a government effective enough to enforce these mandates are much safer than the US.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:36 AM
 
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And what if it were a unicorn? A six year old is going to be in someone's garage, rifling through the homeowner's possession in the middle of the night? Seriously, all of these what ifs are absurd.
Why would it matter if it were dark?
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:37 AM
 
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But.....there WAS damage.....someone violated the family's home.
Yes, and the kids who stole the pot have now been apprehended and will be prosecuted. A kid who didn't actually take anything is now dead. Do you see anything wrong with this picture?
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Look up Sweden where my family is from.

Random tragedies are not conclusive evidence of the point you are trying to make. Simple evaluation of statistics shows that countries with high levels of gun control and a government effective enough to enforce these mandates are much safer than the US.
You're the one trying to use a 'random tragedy' as conclusive evidence of a 'dangerous gun culture'. The truth is that the places with the strongest gun control in the US are the least safe. Chicago, DC - how's that gun control working there? Kennesaw, GA - one of the safest places in America where it's the law to own a gun.

I am guessing you're the type that would advocate wide scale gun confiscation. Do you know what that would accomplish? Only the criminals having guns. That's the country you want to live in? I do not favor the heavy hand of socialism like Sweden. Oh and our Constitution doesn't either as evidenced by the Second Amendment. The reality is that you'll never get all of the guns, especially out of the hands of those criminals. So why would you choose to leave the law abiding citizens defenseless? That's irresponsible in the extreme.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Why would it matter if it were dark?
I said the middle of the night. Because you don't see a lot of six year olds running around in the middle of the night robbing people. I was pointing out how the what ifs were getting a bit ridiculous.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:46 AM
 
Location: MS
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So where does this end? If a six year old child wanders into your garage you just start shooting point blank and kill him/her
I do have an issue with Mr. Kaarma firing blindly into the garage. He broke the 2nd rule of gun safety - Identify your target and what it behind it.

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Sad to see what our society has come to.
I agree. Fewer and fewer people respect property rights.

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No it assumption that challenges the patently uncivilized gun culture in some parts of the United States.

Less guns. Less tragedy.
No. More respect = less tragedy. Mr. Dede made the choice to enter Mr. Kaarma's garage. No one forced him to. He was 18 years old and in the US considered an adult. He did not think past his on selfish interest in finding someone else's property to take. Every decision we make has a consequence. Some good and in this case, some bad.

I have no sympathy for the older Mr. Dede. He did not teach his son to respect the property of others.
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