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Old 05-15-2014, 12:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Seabass Inna Bun View Post
He wasn't protecting anything. If I want to protect something, I lock it up out of sight. I don't leave it out and hope someone comes along to steal it so I can shoot them, like the murderer you're defending did.
What did he "leave out"???

Is there a law against not locking a door or, leaving it open???
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Old 05-15-2014, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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This guy should get 5-10
Traditionally it's 2 in the chest and 1 in the head.
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:01 PM
 
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There is no law against farting in a crowded elevator but would we encourage that behavior as well?




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What did he "leave out"???

Is there a law against not locking a door or, leaving it open???
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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This exchange student should not have been in the owners garage but he did not deserve to die, this is sad and absolutely ridiculous that this occurred.

this is very very tragic....
my take is I can surely understand the father's outrage, this is his son, and first response would be anger and outrage....plus blame, which is understandable

but I can also feel for the owner of the home who shot him...especially if he's been robbed before.
When someone robs you, you feel violated, and you never feel safe in your home any longer. Wondering when it will happen again, your losses are many, sleep, trust, anger, the whole nine yards...

this is simply tragic all the way around...and it happens, accidents happen, they cannot be prevented....
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Pages 15, 16 and 17 - before the incident Kaarma talked about killing kids (trespassers) "I'm seriously going to kill some f***ing kids... you'll see this on the f***ing news" and killing cops. Witnesses also say he was driving around the neighborhood drunk, cutting off and blocking other cars, and yelling gibberish.

http://newstalkkgvo.com/files/2014/0...NFORMATION.pdf
I have not heard actual legal testimony , under oath, to substantiate that. Until that is done, its all hearsay. I'm neither defending nor indicting. Personally, if that's all true, I would use it toward an unfavorable outlook of the homeowners conduct. I don't hold anger against him, but running ones mouth in a diahrea manner, and mixing alcohol with that in regards to use of lethal force, also leaves me less than impressed.
My premise as to someone who wants to chance sneak thieving or breaking in on my space is , go ahead, we will see what happens, there is no threat of violence extended, or implied. Nobody, who doesn't know me well, knows what to expect. I don't know myself how I will/would react. I sure don't mouth off to the neighborhood that I'm armed and pissed. Take more than a sneak thief to REALLY **** me off though. Lol.Unless, said sneak thief is armed or doesn't u derstand I'm going to assume he is, to whatever end. The odds of catching a sneak thief while unable to arm myself are as good as the reverse.
Can't plan for this stuff. Least ways, I don't. I just try and stay frosty, and keep an eye on strangers hanging around.
I have made the shoot/don't shoot decision, both ways, I have had the one person in my life that I love above all assaulted, and left mentally scarred, after successfully defending herself from certain horrible intentions, unfortunately, I have a bit of experience there.
I wasn't in this guys shoes here, and don't know for sure what state of mind he was in, or even what kind of person he actually is. Based on editorial information, I do see a rush to judgement in many cases here, on both ends. I want to hear more. Lots more.
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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What did he "leave out"???
The purse?

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Is there a law against not locking a door or, leaving it open???
Dunno. Is it relevant to the fact that lying in wait so you can kill someone is bad?

That's a rhetorical question. The answer is "no".
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:14 PM
 
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The purse?



Dunno. Is it relevant to the fact that lying in wait so you can kill someone is bad?

That's a rhetorical question. The answer is "no".
Where was the purse???
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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this is very very tragic....
my take is I can surely understand the father's outrage, this is his son, and first response would be anger and outrage....plus blame, which is understandable

but I can also feel for the owner of the home who shot him...especially if he's been robbed before.
When someone robs you, you feel violated, and you never feel safe in your home any longer. Wondering when it will happen again, your losses are many, sleep, trust, anger, the whole nine yards...
Nonsense. I've been the victim of garage and car breakins three or four times in my life and I don't live in fear. Nor do I try to justify laying traps and shooting blind.
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Old 05-15-2014, 02:16 PM
 
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this is very very tragic....
my take is I can surely understand the father's outrage, this is his son, and first response would be anger and outrage....plus blame, which is understandable

but I can also feel for the owner of the home who shot him...especially if he's been robbed before.
When someone robs you, you feel violated, and you never feel safe in your home any longer. Wondering when it will happen again, your losses are many, sleep, trust, anger, the whole nine yards...

this is simply tragic all the way around...and it happens, accidents happen, they cannot be prevented....
I had a farm house that got burglarized 9 times. Caught one of them and had my 30-30 on him. I captured him but i never had the desire to shoot him. Had another place out in the country and the gang bangers started ripping me off and they did it 3 times but i never made any plans to shoot anyone at all.
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Old 05-15-2014, 02:19 PM
 
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this is very very tragic....
my take is I can surely understand the father's outrage, this is his son, and first response would be anger and outrage....plus blame, which is understandable

but I can also feel for the owner of the home who shot him...especially if he's been robbed before.
When someone robs you, you feel violated, and you never feel safe in your home any longer. Wondering when it will happen again, your losses are many, sleep, trust, anger, the whole nine yards...

this is simply tragic all the way around...and it happens, accidents happen, they cannot be prevented....
Accidents happen, they are not planned. Mr Kaarma planned to kill someone. The tragedy is that a few days after he killed this young man, the police apprehended the teens who had actually robbed him.
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