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Stupidity? He was high? He liked to fight? Robbery?
All of these things are proven facts about Trayvon, pick one.
In other words you have no ****ing idea and so are just throwing stuff out.
Martin was going home to watch the game. You expect us to buy this story that for some unexplained reason he suddenly changed his mind and said hey I think I'll go fight instead, or go rob somebody?
None of those are motives anyway. A motive needs to explain why he did it in that specific situation
What part of "stand your ground was not part of the defense" do you not understand?
I will reply to you because this other guy does not want to have a rational conversation.
You said that stand your ground is NOT a part of the Florida self defense law. I proved it actually IS. Which means it WAS considered by the jury, as per the jury INSTRUCTIONS. It does not matter if the defense did not bring it up, the judge INSTRUCTED them to take their decisions according to the law, which IS stand your ground.
He was pissed off about being profiled as a criminal is my theory.
Pounding somebody's head on the concrete pavement is kind of a violent reaction for just being pissed off, I think there was more to it, like maybe fearing for his life. If he was just pissed off I think it would have probably been just like a punch to the face or maybe a kick to the balls
I will reply to you because this other guy does not want to have a rational conversation.
You said that stand your ground is NOT a part of the Florida state law. I proved it actually IS. Which means it WAS considered by the jury, as per the jury INSTRUCTIONS. It does not matter if the defense did not bring it up, the judge INSTRUCTED them to take their decisions according to the law, which IS stand your ground.
Harrier did not say that Stand Your Ground was not part of Florida State Law, he said that it was not part of the defense offered by Zimmerman and his attorney.
You are the one who falsely said that self defense and stand your ground are equivalent.
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Now if you want to get technical about the law, the self defense statute in Florida IS stand your ground.
The judge did instruct the jury to make decisions according to the law, but did not specify the stand your ground statute, which is separate from the self defense statute.
The stand your ground hearing was waved because O'Mara pursued a pure self defense strategy, and he won.
O'Mara didn't pursue the stand your ground defense because he would have to PROVE that's what it was. I forget now exactly what the circumstances are that have to be proved, but he didn't think he could do it and win.
From what I do remember, a stand your ground defense calls for different evidence from a self defense case.
Selling a book will not bring him financial gains ?
As I recall, Good owned some kind of security consulting business, and offered to do "consulting work" for either the defense or the prosecutor, but was turned down.
O'Mara didn't pursue the stand your ground defense because he would have to PROVE that's what it was. I forget now exactly what the circumstances are that have to be proved, but he didn't think he could do it and win.
From what I do remember, a stand your ground defense calls for different evidence from a self defense case.
The reasons for O'Mara's legal strategy are irrelevant - he is a trained lawyer, and he knew what he was doing.
Obviously, stand your ground did not apply in this incident.
What did apply was self defense,
That is the defense that O'Mara presented, and he was successful in obtaining a not guilty verdict for his client.
Harrier did not say that Stand Your Ground was not part of Florida State Law, he said that it was not part of the defense offered by Zimmerman and his attorney.
You are the one who falsely said that self defense and stand your ground are equivalent.
You did not say it was not a part of the State law, you said it was not a part of the self defense statute. But it is.
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Now if you want to get technical about the law, the self defense statute in Florida IS stand your ground.
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Originally Posted by Harrier
No, it isn't.
A specific defense of "stand your ground" has to be entered for such a claim to be made.
Zimmerman pled not guilty by reason of self defense.
Educate yourself about Florida state law, rather than embarrass yourself by making ignorant statements.
I then posted the link to the statute where you can read the stand your ground law because it is a part of it. That's why the judge cited stand your ground in the jury instructions, as I proved earlier.
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Originally Posted by Harrier
The judge did instruct the jury to make decisions according to the law, but did not specify the stand your ground statute, which is separate from the self defense statute.
Judge Nelson did specify the stand your ground law, as (again, and I have posted numerous official links who prove it) the stand your ground law is a part of Florida self defense statute.
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If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground
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