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View Poll Results: Is teaching the Liberal Entitlement attitude doing an injustice to our youth?
Yes. We are creating people of weak mental fortitude who won't be able to overcome obstacles or hardship. 40 81.63%
No. Liberal hand outs and entitlements are the future of America! 9 18.37%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-26-2014, 11:21 PM
 
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Pride doesn't pay bills or feed your kids.
And that is exactly what the Obama administration wants.

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Old 06-26-2014, 11:22 PM
 
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Too many Americans see no shame in living on government assistance or scamming the system. The left's campaign, led by Obama, to instill an entitlement mindset in many has proven successful. The administration even campaigned targeting minorities, discouraging their instinct to be self-reliant.

Even worse, the Obama administration portrays getting on welfare as the honorable thing to do.
Successful in what? Creating the lowest labor participation rate since the great depression?
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:24 PM
 
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Should we be entitled to anything? Do your kids deserve a free government education? Do you deserve to have a road in front of your home paid for by other people?

Should it be the government's role to make lives and infrastructure better, or should its role be to do as little as possible?

It's really inappropriate of you to take people who apply for things that are available to them and compare them to sociopaths.
Schools are paid for primarily through property tax.

Road infrastructure is primarily paid for through gas taxes and local mello-roos.

$15 minimum wage is subsidized by private businesses. See the difference?
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:25 PM
 
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Good grief, I am not a liberal.
No, just someone who treasures and parrots their ideas.
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Old 06-26-2014, 11:28 PM
 
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No, just someone who treasures and parrots their ideas.
How so? Where have I done that. And really the same could be said about you.
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Old 06-27-2014, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Because it's an artificial support. It's not a natural market force.
That doesn't bother me, nothing about markets and economics is natural. It might bother you, but why should anyone care about what bothers you?

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Dish washers in a normal market don't make $15 an hour. Why should taxpayers and legit business be asked to subsidize this?
The minimum wage should be adjusted for inflation at the very least regardless of how you feel.

You still haven't explained why this shouldn't be done except insofar as doing so would upset you. Since I don't care about your feelings, I find your argument less than persuasive.
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Old 06-27-2014, 07:14 AM
 
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The minimum wage should be adjusted for inflation at the very least regardless of how you feel.
Why?

Can you give a logical, rational reason based on something objective like say... economic result? This isn't about your emotions or what makes you happy or sad.
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Old 06-27-2014, 07:15 AM
 
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How so? Where have I done that. And really the same could be said about you.
You know what they say about things that quack, move, smell like a duck right? Take a look in the mirror, your feathers need some adjusting.
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Old 06-27-2014, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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Why?


Can you give a logical, rational reason based on something objective like say... economic result? This isn't about your emotions or what makes you happy or sad.
Because if a job was worth X 50 years ago, it should be worth X today. Otherwise people do more and more for less and less. This is called "racing to the bottom" and does more harm than good. As the last 35 years or so have shown.
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Old 06-27-2014, 07:21 AM
 
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I believe you must have really twisted yourself into quite the pretzel coming up with such tortured partisan "logic" between completely unrelated things.

If you're so concerned about those "many lives", maybe you should do something other than oppose comprehensive gun control measures to, among other things, restrict easy weapons access by crazy people.
Basically.

Only a right-wing sock puppet could somehow compare a $15 minimum wage to "entitled people wanting to date hot women." There's simply no comparison unless it is "wanting more than you've earned," which quite frankly happens on both sides of the political aisle.

Let's not forget that the red states have a higher poverty rate than blue ones AND take more money from the Federal government than they receive.

List of U.S. states by poverty rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Federal taxation and spending by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, if we're going to talk about "hand-outs," how about we stop pouring money down the rat-holes of the Deep South, where hordes of angry Tea Party hypocrites suck up the Federal dollars while "patriotically" flying their Confederate flags and calling for an end to the very government that provides them with hand-outs. Oh, but that's right - they are only hand-outs when minorities get them...
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