Let's be honest: The Western consumer sought oil in Iraq (CNN, weapon)
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I don't think the Western consumer seeks anything other than validity through making vain purchases usually done in boredom and frustration. Self-esteem sure is expensive.
The Iraq 'thing' was a multi-tasker's dream though: To enforce the use of the Petro-Dollar, end the Iraq-Iran war so that Iran can become the next perceived madhouse/boogeyman of the ME while Iraq can be a convenient excuse to mess with Assad (and en-richen folks like dear Cheney and Putin), allow China to get necessary oil cheaply to fund their continued economic growth that also feeds American entrepreneurs' profit margin, distract Americans sufficiently to allow a warmer embrace of globalism there. And on and on.
If anything the Western consumer may not have been so happy for some time now if there had been no great turmoil centered around Iraq since so much done there has allowed them to continue living in a morphine dream fueled by borrowed credit maintained by fiat affluence and the labor of those they would rather have breathe in large amounts of pollution instead of their own children.
Baloney. The Iraq War occurred because the average worthless American hick didn't quite grasp that Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were not the same person.
Not because the WMDs or to bring democracy to Iraq. That was the excuse, and, unless you are retarded, you understood what was the real reason for the war.
Things came out wrong, and then theme became "We support our troops." Sure, how nice. They put them in danger, and then they send them moral support. Never did they say something truly patriotic like "Hey, here's my son!" Yes, blame Bush-Cheney, but they got public support even after the failure to find the WMDs. They were reelected. Some were genuinely fooled but they were a minority.
This war is and always has been about consumption and selfishness.
No one has been more vocal in his dislike for our militarism in Iraq, but I really don't believe Americans supported Iraq because they wanted to oil. I think half the people, drunk on partisan wine, believed what they were told & the other half could see through it all, but couldn't stop it. Not much different from so many things Obama has done really.
My position was always "The only good reason to attack Iraq IS so steal their oil". WMD's, Al Queda, 9/11, National Security, all nonsense. If Bush said we were going into Iraq to take their oil & every American would save 0.50 a gallon for the next 50 years, I would have been equally against the attack on Iraq, but would at least respect Bush/Cheney for doing what they thought was best for our citizens/country.
Last edited by Mason3000; 06-28-2014 at 11:11 PM..
[quote=Wise TibetanMonkey;35411206]Not because the WMDs or to bring democracy to Iraq. That was the excuse, and, unless you are retarded, you understood what was the real reason for the war.
Things came out wrong, and then theme became "We support our troops." Sure, how nice. They put them in danger, and then they send them moral support. Never did they say something truly patriotic like "Hey, here's my son!" Yes, blame Bush-Cheney, but they got public support even after the failure to find the WMDs. They were reelected. Some were genuinely fooled but they were a minority.
This war is and always has been about consumption and selfishness.[/quote]
known unknowns....STOP blaming US citizens. We are struggling to survive, we didn't cause war for OIL and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4
I don't think the Western consumer seeks anything other than validity through making vain purchases usually done in boredom and frustration. Self-esteem sure is expensive.
The Iraq 'thing' was a multi-tasker's dream though: To enforce the use of the Petro-Dollar, end the Iraq-Iran war so that Iran can become the next perceived madhouse/boogeyman of the ME while Iraq can be a convenient excuse to mess with Assad (and en-richen folks like dear Cheney and Putin), allow China to get necessary oil cheaply to fund their continued economic growth that also feeds American entrepreneurs' profit margin, distract Americans sufficiently to allow a warmer embrace of globalism there. And on and on.
If anything the Western consumer may not have been so happy for some time now if there had been no great turmoil centered around Iraq since so much done there has allowed them to continue living in a morphine dream fueled by borrowed credit maintained by fiat affluence and the labor of those they would rather have breathe in large amounts of pollution instead of their own children.
Exactly right. And to prove our good faith (get ready for this!)... Russia is selling jets to the demoralized Iraqi army.
We never meant the military-industrial complex to be ours alone. We set up Iraq in our consumer image, sort of like Amazon, you can buy an sell anything. But first it had to be broken, before construction could begin. That's where the money was. Now the war breaks things again and the process starts over...
The only thing off limits is the oil. That's the energy that makes everything possible. Without it, the consumer can not survive.
the real oil aka black gold is not under iraqi soil. its in the DOD contracts that ensued. lots of money to be made in war
Both, it was the perfect scam.
And best of all, the war was free!!!
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