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Old 07-02-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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Just like the title of the thread states: If it weren't for liberals and liberalism, America would have a vast and expansive nuclear power infrastructure, renewable for infinity, more efficient than fossil fuels, less damaging to the environment than scavenging for coal, oil and natural gas, and more economically efficient than high-cost wind and solar farms.

For the past 40 years, America could have been building upon a tried and true energy infrastucture. But, no. We can't have that here in America. Liberals just won't allow it. And because of that, America missed the boat.

In essence, no one should listen to any liberal anywhere when it comes time to have a thoughtful discussion on energy policy. They screwed America royally on the nuclear power issue. And now they have the gall to tell us how bad coal, fracking, and oil is?

How they learned to stop worrying and love nuclear | New York Post

The Breakthrough Institute - Liberals and Progressives for Nuclear
Not only safe nuke plants, how about the super clean coal plants that have been shut down with this liberal idiocy? The average liberal has no idea of the technology that went into those plants to the point where they almost put out no emissions except for CO2 which harms nothing and is good for plants.

Thousands of people lost their jobs and just wait 10 years to see what is going to happen to elec bills.
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Old 07-02-2014, 04:09 PM
 
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The company I work for has a goal of 10% of their power production to be wind and solar SOME DAY in the future. But every company publication has a windmill on it, like windmills are actually a feasible way to replace clean, efficient and abundant coal. The politics of this country these days have become more toxic towards progress than unregulated capitalism which for me is hard to say.

Just wait until they require everyone in the south to have a saver switch on their AC units and then they start cycling them off for hours a day due to power shortages. I hope you southerners like it about 80 degrees and humid in your homes when it's 100+ outside because that is coming.

You can thank your neighborhood liberal for that.
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Old 07-02-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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Im pretty sure homicidal cats tripping their owners kill more people then nuclear reactors do in this country every year......
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Old 07-03-2014, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Science Fail.

Technology Fail.

Nuclear Fail.

IQ Fail.

Ignorant narrow-minded people lacking common sense don't understand the difference between nuclear reactor types. Oddly, it was Liberals who dumbed everyone down.

Fission reactors generate hazardous waste which must be disposed, and is quite costly.

Breeder reactors generate no waste. In fact, breeder reactors generate fuel for breeder reactors.

In other words, I take the "waste" from a breeder reactor and put in right back into the reactor, or into another breeder reactor, and burn it up.

How is that not sustainable?

The Environmentally-challenged Duo of Clinton/Gore cancelled funding for the IFR, which is a special type of breeder reactor.....it renders the risk of nuclear weapons proliferation almost nil.



Tactical Fail.

Strategy Fail.

Nuclear Weapons Fail.

Common Sense Fail.

IQ Fail.




You live on an island....it is volcanically active...it sits on fault/fold and suffers repeated earthquakes.....there are sea-quakes that have repeatedly caused tsunamis....and there's a potential for cyclones (hurricanes).

What moron would be stupid enough to build nuclear reactors that could be flooded?

That's like a Geology Fail, Engineering Fail, Common Sense Fail, IQ Fail.



I wouldn't necessarily disagree, I would just suggest that fission reactors are antiquated. You need to be using breeder reactors.

I've mentioned before that policy changes permitting open inspection would go a long, long way to appeasing the uneasy.

The Department of Energy notifying a nuclear power plant 6 months in advance that it intends to conduct an inspection defeats the whole purpose of having inspections.

You need open inspection. Any municipality, county, State or federal agency, plus any approved private groups (like Green Peace) can walk up to the gate and announce an inspection.

Those gates and turnstiles had best be open within 30 seconds...

Mircea

The problem with breeder reactors (also called fast reactors) is the following, they make Pu239 that can be chemically separated, purified and them the Pu salt can be metallurgically refined into the material needed to make an atomic bomb. This is a relatvely easy path to working nuclear weapons that even nations with modest technical and economic resources (example North Korea) could use to acquire nuclear weapons. ( North Korea acomplished this over a decade ago) . So if you want to give up and see a World with from 30-50 nations having nuclear weapons (greatly increasing the opportunities for nuclear war both accidental or deliberate) then one sadly has to put the bredder reactor back in the sealed box and put it back into the warehouse. Mankind is not mature enought to use these dangerous toy.

You should also observe that the failure of common sense that gave Japan and the world the Dai-ichi Disaster was solely by the managing directors of a multi- billion dollar corporation The Tokyo Electric Company (TEPCO) harly a bunch of liberals, environmentalists or wooly headed academics. They were given reports on the seismic history including Tsunamis done by the Univ. ofTokyo and Japan's equivalent of the USGS at Tsukuba and were flat out told that Tsunamis of 15-20 meters had occured at the site within the last 500 years. The managing direstors dismissed the reports based on field work and chose to build the plants on the shore and to build a sea wall that would be overtopped by a 5 meter Tsunami or a similar storm surge from a Typhoon (cat 3 or greater) . They were told to either build a much larger sea wall or to locate the reactors from 5-10 miles inland and if they wanted to to use sea water for cooling pipe it from the shoreline to the reactors. This was ignored because it would have increased the cost of the reactors and would have put the reactors in area more heavily populated (Japanese know all about Tsunamis and storm surges and are smart enough to not live right on the cost).
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