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Completely hyperbolic. There's no validity to your opinion whatsoever.
That's all conjecture.
really? so you consider all the talk that the islamofacists like ISIS and other terrorist organizations wanting to establish a world wide caliphate, and them calling the US the great satan, and wanting to wipe the great satan form the face of the earth means nothing?i guess attacks on the US embassies also means nothing?
Why not? That seems to potentially have about the same amount of success that we've had up to this point (that would be practically NONE) running around the world, spending billions, and having nothing to show for it.
Given that you do not have security clearance and access to the relevant intelligence reports, you have no idea what you're talking about. You have no idea what secret agreements are in place. You have no idea what classified operations have been performed. You have no idea what attacks have been thwarted. You don't know anything at all. You are not qualified to be making the statements you're making. All you have is your own personal opinion based on incomplete facts.
I think it's because we just dip our big toe in the terrorist pool. That, and they don't seem to care about dying so how do you threaten them?
We need to get a sky writer over the Middle East to write: "No virgins left!" in arabic.
You guys have gotta stop oversimplifying this thing with speech about 72 virgins and the like. That's silly and it's counterproductive.
Why not ask yourself how we went from being the most popular western nation in the Arab World to pretty much the least popular. Is it because they "hate our freedoms" and "want to establish a caliphate?"
We've expended hundreds of billions of dollars over more than a decade. You can't reasonably spend that kind of money and then say we've only "dipped our big toe" in the terrorist pool halfheartedly. That's not true and it doesn't explain our failure to have any success fighting terrorism.
Given that you do not have security clearance and access to the relevant intelligence reports, you have no idea what you're talking about. You have no idea what secret agreements are in place. You have no idea what classified operations have been performed. You have no idea what attacks have been thwarted. You don't know anything at all. You are not qualified to be making the statements you're making. All you have is your own personal opinion based on incomplete facts.
Who needs a security clearance to know that despite a trillion spent in Iraq, ISIS is in full effect.
What's been accomplished. Americans are now MORE afraid of terrorism than ever.
Don't get mad at me for throwing a bucket of cold water in your face. I know the truth hurts, but that's what they make painkillers for.
You can't fight terrorism because you cannot blow up an idea. You can only try to find out why they hate us so much. And most likely it is because we always bully everyone into doing what we want them to do throughout the world. Just as we did before, are doing now, and will do until our empire coughs out its last breaths. For every terrorist we kill, they probably have two children who will hate us more than their parent that we kill.
Given that you do not have security clearance and access to the relevant intelligence reports, you have no idea what you're talking about. You have no idea what secret agreements are in place. You have no idea what classified operations have been performed. You have no idea what attacks have been thwarted. You don't know anything at all. You are not qualified to be making the statements you're making. All you have is your own personal opinion based on incomplete facts.
Great points! And for the effort...
Double my taxes!
Wait, scratch that. Take it all! (Throws wallet on the table)
Indeed? This is why I must ask you why the warmongering Left has pressed their Liberal President into re-negotiating the treaty George Bush sign agreeing to pull all the troops out of Iraq? Was the pulling of the troops out of Iraq just a political stunt by Obama in order to fulfill a campaign promise? It almost appears that as soon as he fulfilled that campaign promise, Obama re-negotiated the Bush agreement and has now reintroduced military boots on the ground and begun a bombing campaign in Iraq while admitting publicly that he has no plan at all.
Obama is actually worse than Bush when it comes to warmongering:
America’s Secret War in 134 Countries
The deployment of US Special Operations forces is a growing form of overseas power projection.
In the waning days of the Bush presidency, Special Operations forces were reportedly deployed in about sixty countries around the world.
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In 2013, elite US forces were deployed in 134 countries around the globe, according to Major Matthew Robert Bockholt of SOCOM Public Affairs. This 123 percent increase during the Obama years demonstrates how, in addition to conventional wars and a CIA drone campaign, public diplomacy and extensive electronic spying, the US has engaged in still another significant and growing form of overseas power projection.
It is all about policing our Globalist Utopia at tax payers expense, not protecting our borders.
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Globalized Special Ops
Last year, Special Operations Command chief Admiral William McRaven explained his vision for special ops globalization. In a statement to the House Armed Services Committee, he said, “USSOCOM is enhancing its global network of SOF to support our interagency and international partners in order to gain expanded situational awareness of emerging threats and opportunities. The network enables small, persistent presence in critical locations, and facilitates engagement where necessary or appropriate…”
Deployments in 134 countries, however, turn out not to be expansive enough for SOCOM. In November 2013, the command announced that it was seeking to identify industry partners who could, under SOCOM’s Trans Regional Web Initiative, potentially “develop new websites tailored to foreign audiences.” These would join an existing global network of ten propaganda websites, run by various combatant commands and made to look like legitimate news outlets, including CentralAsiaOnline.com, Sabahi which targets the Horn of Africa; an effort aimed at the Middle East known as Al-Shorfa.com; and another targeting Latin America called Infosurhoy.com.
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134 Chances for Blowback
Although elected in 2008 by many who saw him as an antiwar candidate, President Obama has proved to be a decidedly hawkish commander-in-chief whose policies have already produced notable instances of what in CIA trade-speak has long been called blowback. While the Obama administration oversaw a US withdrawal from Iraq (negotiated by his predecessor), as well as a drawdown of US forces in Afghanistan (after a major military surge in that country), the president has presided over a ramping up of the US military presence in Africa, a reinvigoration of efforts in Latin America, and tough talk about a rebalancing or “pivot to Asia” (even if it has amounted to little as of yet).
The White House has also overseen an exponential expansion of America’s drone war. While President Bush launched fifty-one such strikes, President Obama has presided over 330, according to research by the London-based Bureau of Investigative Journalism. Last year, alone, the US also engaged in combat operations in Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen. Recent revelations from National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden have demonstrated the tremendous breadth and global reach of US electronic surveillance during the Obama years. And deep in the shadows, Special Operations forces are now annually deployed to more than double the number of nations as at the end of Bush’s tenure.
In recent years, however, the unintended consequences of US military operations have helped to sow outrage and discontent, setting whole regions aflame. More than ten years after America’s “mission accomplished” moment, seven years after its much vaunted surge, the Iraq that America helped make is in flames. A country with no Al Qaeda presence before the US invasion and a government opposed to America’s enemies in Tehran now has a central government aligned with Iran and two cities flying Al Qaeda flags.
Why not? That seems to potentially have about the same amount of success that we've had up to this point (that would be practically NONE) running around the world, spending billions, and having nothing to show for it.
There's a heck of a lot of folk who believe America's exceptionalism means vast and virtually unlimited military involvement because fate has somehow designated the US the world's authority figure. It's right up there with the whole leader of the free world thing.
Military intervention and war have sustained the US economy for the better part of 100 years. We give other countries military financial aid so they can buy military equipment from US manufacturers. Wars are business, big business. Layoffs occur when the US is not engaged in war or other military interventions.
and they want a one world religion, based on islam and you will will be given the choice of convert to islam or die infidel.
Sounds similar to the beliefs of fundamentalist Christains who believe the Jews and other non believers will be given a similar choice, accept JC as your lord and savior and be whisked away to heaven or decline and spend eternity in hell.
Bunch of hooey.
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