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Old 09-19-2014, 11:54 AM
 
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Or what? You seem to see only giving in to the demands of the slackers or furthering their dependency on the rest of us for sustinence. There are other options such as encouraging education and awareness of the upward mobility that they for some reason cannot see, or allowing them to remain where they are and ignoring their whines. Funny how the numerous strikes by FF workers in recent months had zero effect and in most parts of the country were not even noticed or newsworthy. Kinda makes you see just how relevant they are...

Even mama robins kick the babies out of the next at some point. Either they learn to fly or the cat gets them.
Well unless you're planning to go Ghengis Khan on the government, what exactly are you going to do about it?
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Old 09-19-2014, 11:58 AM
 
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The bleeding hearts and the professionally entitled will always claim they are worth more.

The rest of us normal folks, (you know those who have worked for what we have) well, we know that to be worth more you have to work for it. If you insist on working in retail then have some ambition, work towards promotion. Its no good standing around complaining about managers making the big bucks when you don't have the gumption to work for that yourself.
I worked retail for a time, started off as part time closer earning $10:30 an hour (this was in Alaska so starting wages are slightly above those in the lower 48). Within 6 months I had started management training I then earned $14.70/hr. With hard work within the next year I took a position of assistant section manager and was earning just short of $18.00/hr which at 45 hours a week works out at $42,000 a year which was a decent enough living wage.

Bottom line is, take responsibility for your own life, if you want more have some ambition ... work for it !!!!!
Retail managers don't make big bucks unless they're a store manager.
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:07 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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Well unless you're planning to go Ghengis Khan on the government, what exactly are you going to do about it?
Advocate at every opportunity elimination of such entitlements or government benefits which benefit the lazy and unmotivated. Not much, but perhaps all I can do.
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:20 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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It's either that or you pay for their food stamps, medical care, assisted living, etc. etc. In fact you already are.
Why should it be an either/or scenario? I'm not saying that it's NOT, but the current situation is far from ideal.
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Old 09-19-2014, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The business owner gets the quality of labor they are willing to pay for. If the owners wants a better person he will have to pay more but with the excess supply of cheap labor that won't happen anytime soon.
That is b.s.
At my wife's company, they can never fill all the jobs bc they cannot find qualified candidates who are willing to give a F and actually put in a little effort.

And the pay is great.
Best benefits package I have ever seen.
Matching 401k.

Why is it so hard to believe that the general population is comprised of a lot of lazy people?

Study: Americans Spend Up To 80 Percent Of Internet Time ‘Cyberloafing’ « CBS St. Louis

Who Wastes The Most Time At Work? - Forbes
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Old 09-19-2014, 03:35 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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That is b.s.
At my wife's company, they can never fill all the jobs bc they cannot find qualified candidates who are willing to give a F and actually put in a little effort.

And the pay is great.
Best benefits package I have ever seen.
Matching 401k.

Why is it so hard to believe that the general population is comprised of a lot of lazy people?

Study: Americans Spend Up To 80 Percent Of Internet Time ‘Cyberloafing’ « CBS St. Louis

Who Wastes The Most Time At Work? - Forbes
This is true in some cases, but it's also true that willing people cannot find decent work. The answer is in the middle somewhere.
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Old 09-19-2014, 06:49 PM
 
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This is true in some cases, but it's also true that willing people cannot find decent work. The answer is in the middle somewhere.
Mrs. Ghost is very good at her field and very qualified. The Problem that the people who remain in those higher position are fearful of qualified professionals like Mrs. Ghost.
They would rather make a bad hire than putting the right person in that position.

This Nation has grown fearful of competition.

That's why people hang on to those Wal-Mart jobs to the end.
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:06 PM
 
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That is b.s.
At my wife's company, they can never fill all the jobs bc they cannot find qualified candidates who are willing to give a F and actually put in a little effort.

And the pay is great.
Best benefits package I have ever seen.
Matching 401k.

Why is it so hard to believe that the general population is comprised of a lot of lazy people?

Study: Americans Spend Up To 80 Percent Of Internet Time ‘Cyberloafing’ « CBS St. Louis

Who Wastes The Most Time At Work? - Forbes
It doesn't matter if the pay is great if they are still underpaying. Min wage workers can't find better jobs for much the same reason companies can't find better employees - the market.
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It doesn't matter if the pay is great if they are still underpaying. Min wage workers can't find better jobs for much the same reason companies can't find better employees - the market.
All you need is a bachelor's and given the work and the reputation of the company, they are not underpaying.

They get plenty of applicants. It is very desirable. Just most of them suck. One guy would call his own voicemail and just leave it running so he did not have to take calls.

It does not matter the field.

Took me four tries to get a plumber I like. No difference in rates.
Took me 3 tries to get a decent maid (at $185 for four-five hours' work - two ladies, I supply everything - hardly underpaid).
3 tries to get an electrician.
I still have not found an HVAC company I like.
Can't seem to be able to take my car anywhere without *something* untoward happening.

Maybe my standards for good work are just high, but if I am looking for someone able to try harder and do more than a slapdash mediocre whatever job. Oops, I broke your sh*t in the meantime. Sorry.
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Old 09-19-2014, 07:49 PM
 
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They don't deserve a raise. They deserve to be promoted up the ladder only after proving they are hard worker's and are high achievers with the singular goal of total customer satisfaction. They do not deserve a raise for merely being on the payroll. Anything short of being a high achiever deserves not one additional penny, but liberals and Democrats don't understand that and instead believe demagoguery and protest is the best way to earn more money.

America is now the country of the lowest common denominator courtesy of Democrats, liberals, and other losers. And that's why America is circling the drain faster and faster with every passing day.
Whoa!!!
So much common sense in one post- I'm not used to this, lol

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