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Old 10-03-2014, 07:56 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
When Bush walked in the office, the country was in good shape, and when he finally walked out, the it was a heap of rubble. That is a fact. You can blame Obama all you want for not fixing everything fast enough, I do not care (I did not vote for him), but that does not make him a worse president than the one who caused the damage in the first place

The economy really started to tank when Pelosi & Reid controlled the legislation to stop it.

The economy was already in recovery mode when Obama hit office.
What did Obama do to right the ship, that was not already in progress.
The things the Obama administration were trying to do at the time with their involvement, were slowing down the recovery, with an uncertain business climate.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:00 AM
 
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Weird no one mentions Nixon in the running.

But yeah not the best, not the worst.
Nixon was honorable enough to resign.

Obama should follow his lead.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:00 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Six years....LOL. Reagan is still considered a good president after 30 years, and probably after 50, or even 100 years. Likewise, Bush will be considered a horrible president after 30, or 50 years or even 100 years. I am sorry if it hurts you, but the presidents leaving the office does not change their past.


We have had 2 Presidents in the 21st century.

The 1st a leader.
The 2nd a follower.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:04 AM
 
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Again, complete failure to understand how numbers work.

Obama inherited a $1.2 trillion estimated deficit( which was an underestimate, but that's another topic), and reduced it to roughly $500 billion.
I think the poster you are responding to might be mixing up the budget deficit with the national debt. There is no doubt Obama has been a disaster regarding our debt which is spiraling out of control.

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The Outstanding Public Debt as of 03 Oct 2014 at 02:03:44 PM GMT is:

The estimated population of the United States is 319,136,744
so each citizen's share of this debt is $56,024.23. The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$2.48 billion per day since September 30, 2012!
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Anyone who blames, or gives credit to, any President for the state of the economy is only demonstrating that they are civically illiterate and have no clue about how their own government functions.

That is the very definition of a "low-information voter."

You really think, government involvement in business, cannot tank an economy?

Government involvement is the entire reason economies tank.


The most prosperous times in this nation, were accomplished when there was less government involvement in the economy.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:10 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Six years....LOL. Reagan is still considered a good president after 30 years, and probably after 50, or even 100 years. Likewise, Bush will be considered a horrible president after 30, or 50 years or even 100 years. I am sorry if it hurts you, but the presidents leaving the office does not change their past.
You missed the point.
Recognizing someone as having poor policies or being a bad president is not the same thing as having the irrational derangement syndrome about them.
Those in this thread (and elsewhere) who find no fault at all in O yet insist W was the worst president ever are not displaying logical thinking.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:10 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Again, complete failure to understand how numbers work.

Obama inherited a $1.2 trillion estimated deficit( which was an underestimate, but that's another topic), and reduced it to roughly $500 billion. Much like the "destroyed millions of jobs" claim, there's absolutely no question that it's false.

Obama reduced it?

Really?
Bush's bailout was not interest free. It made money.(reducing the deficit he really left Obama)
You are going to give Obama credit, for something that was done before he was in office?
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Gone
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i am sure this question has been asked before but it just seems that everything this president does works against that very thing that made the united states the best country in the world period. Now with dropping the ball on ebola, elimination of massive amounts of jobs, doing nothing to help the middle class in reality, we will most likely fall into the absolute worst recession or depression sometime soon in 2015, printing of money, open u.s borders, our future social security checks will be eaten by welfare, the ongoing war and the list continues, what was left in manufacturing has been chased out to canada and alike. I cannot leave out the division that has been created as well over the last 6 years making everything about race or equality. Just imagine of there is an amnesty, far fewer americans will have work.

Nothing is looking on the bright side.

I know there are those leftist warriors that will continue to stand behind this administration all the way to the end, but at the same there are a ton of democrats that have left the extreme left this administration has brought them.

Will this be named the worst ever presidency?
nope.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The economy really started to tank when Pelosi & Reid controlled the legislation to stop it.

The economy was already in recovery mode when Obama hit office.
Maybe the recovery was because of Reid and Pelosi . Kidding aside, no, it was not in recovery mode at that time, the job losses were getting worse every month, and in February 2009, we hit the worst. At that time US had lost nearly 2 million jobs in three months.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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We have had 2 Presidents in the 21st century.

The 1st a leader.
The 2nd a follower.
Bush followed Cheney, while Pres. Obama leads. On this we agree
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