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Old 10-19-2014, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I believe Muslims are the majority in two of the three countries and a significant minority in the third.
You would be correct. Regardless of religion, pray the Ebola away and use of faith healers prevail.

It has become necessary to pay the faith healers to back off because they are one of the sources of virus migration.
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originating in Africa, wonder if anyone has looked at whether Africans might be more susceptible than other races.

That study may be down the road since few outside Africa have gotten ill.
Proximity to bodily fluids of an advanced case of Ebola seems to be the common link, regardless of race. How many outside of Africa have been exposed to the bodily fluids of a maturing case of Ebola?

Reportedly, children appear to have more imunity and recover faster if treated in time.
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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"it's a gay disease". "it's a disease of impoverished people and those that treat them".

Language makes a difference. No disease is confined to a socioeconomic group. that is not the way diseases are categorized.
Right on!

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Aids is not a gay disease and I lost 20 or more friends to its horror back in the 90's
Ebola is not a poor man's disease either
we have not been told the truth hence our distrust of Obama and his jesters
most everything they have said has been debunked
that is why we need to be overly cautious
it is been reported that the magic 21 days might not be right nor do you have to have a fever to have it
some folks want to say panic when folks are merely discussing it or yes, even being pissed at the hooligans in charge who can not seem to locate their own asses with theirs or anyone else's hands!!
I don't think you got the sarcasm.

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well that seems to point to something just like this happened otherwise he would not be in the hospital with this lovely malady
Who? The car-wash guy is in the hospital with a confirmed case of Ebola? I'm losing track of just who all we're talking about here.
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You guys are really twisting mwruckman's post. I agree with him. Frankly, the advice last summer to "stay at home and pray" that some gave was a good idea. The more you isolate yourself, the less susceptible you are.

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I find irony in the fact that many of the Americans in the threatened area in Africa are evangelical Christian missionaries (Methodists , Luthern Missouri Synod, Southern Baptists,Seventh Day Adventists, and Catholics) . In an area with few medical organizations the clinic or rudimentary hospital set up by these Christian missions are the only modern medicine available. These are people who are living the example of Christ or taking a big risk to help the sick and we should all honor their sacrifice as Christ certainly will
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I believe Muslims are the majority in two of the three countries and a significant minority in the third.
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You would be correct. Regardless of religion, pray the Ebola away and use of faith healers prevail. It has become necessary to pay the faith healers to back off because they are one of the sources of virus migration.
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Old 10-19-2014, 12:12 PM
 
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I love all the talking-point Ebola experts.

A week or two ago they were all travel-ban talking point experts, claiming that a travel-ban was impossible to implement. Then the temperature-taking regime was instituted where all those travelling from West Africa were identified to have their temperatures taken at US airports.

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Old 10-19-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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Those onboard the three flights Duncan took between Monrovia and Dallas have also cleared.

The direct contact with bodily fluids of ADVANCED Ebola seems to be holding true here and throughout the rest of the world.
The same pattern holds for the Patrick Sawyer case. He apparently was quite ill when he flew from Liberia to Nigeria. Reportedly, he vomitted and had diarrhea while on the plane then collapsed in the Lagos airport.

This is an excellent test case to research since it's involves a clear patient zero in a setting where the health authorities mustered the staff to trace and monitor something like 80,000 possible contacts.

I have not done more than casually note some details ... Based on that:

I don't believe any of the passengers on that plane become ill - except for an aide who travelled with him then helped Sawyer when he collapsed. The limo driver who drove the vomiting Sawyer did not contract Ebola. Most of those who died in that outbreak were health care workers. Here again, full protective gear was not used at the first Nigerian hospital since it was not initially known Sawyer had Ebola.

One of the Nigerian doctors who became ill was reassured by WHO that while Ebola in theory could be transmitted by sweat the actual chances of that occurring are less likely in the early stages of the disease. The viral load is simply too low. That doctor was concerned about her family - for she was ill for a few days before being diagnosed. No one in the family contracted Ebola.

Again, this is the same (probable) pattern as in the Thomas Duncan case - although the quarantine for the Louise Troh family does not end until tomorrow. Louise Troh maintained she did not encounter wet fluids - and was probably right.

In Liberia it has been the caregivers who first developed Ebola. Women in the community, and, of course, health personnel. Children who tend to touch everything were not among the first waves but are now being seen as part of a secondary pattern. Poor kids are probably trying to assist a sick parent or becoming infected by fluids that a parent can no longer clean up.
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Old 10-19-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Our training tells us that incubation is 2 -26 days and 98% occur within 8-10 days. The fact that thus far none of Sawyers house mates have become ill is very reassuring.
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Old 10-19-2014, 01:10 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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CNN had " an veterinarian expert" on skype. Expert said there have been no scientific studies of dogs and Ebola. No one knows if the 21 day window is the same for dogs as for humans. He recommended the animal be killed.

CNN also had one of the world's foremost Ebola experts with decades of experience in labs and in the bush on.. The last thing he expected was a question about dogs. He said, " give the dog a bath and all will be well".

First world problems.........

Thanks for that info.
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Old 10-19-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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The porn industry shuts itself down when there is someone who tests HIV positive. Are you saying we should shut out airports down because of a few Ebola cases?
No, but visas should have been temporarily halted.
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Old 10-19-2014, 01:49 PM
 
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guess how many americans died from the aids epidemic before reagan even bothered to mention it? Talk about not caring about america.
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