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Old 10-30-2014, 03:19 PM
 
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He doesn't want to. He's a 'global citizen' who believes we are equal to people from Liberia and other 3rd world hell holes.

This.
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Old 10-30-2014, 03:19 PM
 
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I just don't understand why she rejected the compromise offered by the state of Maine.

She could go out but just not ride on crowded public transport or go to crowded public locations. That seems fair and in line with all of the guidelines I've seen for returning Ebola workers. Why do y'all think she rejected that proposal?
Because I think she has a crusader mentality. She's gone all-in.

I agree with you, I think the compromise offered by the state was reasonable.
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Old 10-30-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Tulare County, Ca
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That article has the stink of Drudge all over it.
Got it from a link in one of the comments in NBC's Todays Health. Your comment has the stink of bias all over it. Carry on.
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Old 10-30-2014, 03:20 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I find it significant because the offer followed CDC guidelines and yet she STILL rejected it. So, she either never really intended to follow CDC guidelines or she's just trying to make a political point only.
Yes, it was quite a reasonable offer and should have been gladly accepted.
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Old 10-30-2014, 03:21 PM
 
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I see no difference with that nurse and say a doctor who saves a life by is actions then gets drunk and goes out and drives on roadways. Its clear and courts have confirmed states and federal government right to quarantine a individual. Individual right does not trump general society as it doesn't in other matters. Go to judge ;get a warrant and take her into custody; placing her in locked hospital quarantine since her word cannot be trusted.
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Old 10-30-2014, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Can't imagine a court saying a healthcare worker directly involved in patient care with ebola victims is not "exposed" to the ebola virus.
I agree 100%.
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Old 10-30-2014, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Syracuse IS Central New York.
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Ebola is a virus. No country can fully seal itself off from a virus. Precautions yes. Absolute seal off would not be effective. Viruses are too easy to transmit, and plus mutate into slightly different forms.
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Old 10-30-2014, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Okay, found a print article of Maine's offer to Hickox that she's still rejecting.

LePage says negotiations with Kaci Hickox break down over Ebola quarantine - The Portland Press Herald / Maine Sunday Telegram
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The Maine CDC “in-home quarantine” guidelines now reflect the federal Centers for Disease Control recommendations for someone who is at “some risk” but shows no symptoms. The federal CDC does not call it quarantine.

The federal guidelines, and now the state’s, call for direct active monitoring of a person who has treated Ebola patients, which means in-person visits to check on the person’s condition. A Maine CDC epidemiologist, someone who monitors and investigates disease risk in populations, visited Hickox’s home again Thursday and was inside for just a couple of minutes, presumably as part of the direct active monitoring.

The guidelines also can include – and in the Maine do include – restrictions on the use of long-distance transportation like buses or airplanes, exclusion from public places like shopping centers and movie theaters and staying away from work.

The person can go outside as long as he or she remains at least 3 feet from members of the public.

“These guidelines would allow an individual in the “some risk” category to go for walks, runs or ride their bicycle, but would prevent such a person from going into public places or coming within three feet of other people in non-congregate gatherings,” the governor’s statement said.
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Old 10-30-2014, 03:23 PM
 
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I would guess given she worked in a country/around people where Ebola is rampant, she would be considered "exposed". Plus the history of the 2 nurses in our country, treating patients, who got infected might come into play into a decision.

But I agree....a court would have to play lawyer ball with the word "exposed". No politics will come into play there of course.
What is "rampant" according to you?

99% of the residents in those affected country are infection-free.

On the other hand, her entire purpose over there was to help treat infected people. In that sense, she was exposed. That doesn't mean that she was infected. And to date, there is no evidence that she was infected. A full-on quarantine doesn't seem merited. But a judge would probably rule for the state to some monitoring and restrictions on her activities.
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Old 10-30-2014, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Because I think she has a crusader mentality. She's gone all-in.

I agree with you, I think the compromise offered by the state was reasonable.
I think that's it.

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Yes, it was quite a reasonable offer and should have been gladly accepted.
I thought so too, all things considered.
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