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Old 11-07-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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Marriage has limits.

Marriage is discrimination.

Hard to fathom in the we are all equal fantasy land Americans have fooled themselves into believing.

 
Old 11-07-2014, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Children need both a father and a mother.
Nope. My older sisters were raised by my mother alone. There is nothing a father can do that a mother can not do. There is nothing a mother can do that a father can not do.

P.S. If you are parenting with your genitals, you are doing it wrong.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:00 PM
 
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Basically, it comes down to what the majority of the people want. Last I saw the majority of the people in the US are fine with Gay marriage, just like the majority of the people are ok with Pro choice, and the majority are unhappy with the direction the president is taking us.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:06 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Nope. My older sisters were raised by my mother alone. There is nothing a father can do that a mother can not do.
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There is nothing a mother can do that a father can not do.
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P.S. If you are parenting with your genitals, you are doing it wrong.
Isn't that what lesbians and gays are doing?

What was meant by the previous poster's comment (which you totally missed), is that children need both male and female roll models or influences in their lives, and to make the claim that two females or two males can be everything a child needs is ridiculous on it's face. Men and women model different qualities to children. Both are important to child development.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Seymour, CT
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Isn't that what lesbians and gays are doing?

What was meant by the previous poster's comment (which you totally missed), is that children need both male and female roll models or influences in their lives, and to make the claim that two females or two males can be everything a child needs is ridiculous on it's face. Men and women model different qualities to children. Both are important to child development.
Myth 1
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:12 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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What behavior? Going to work, owning a home, raising family, soccer practice, karate classes, running errands, grocery shopping, taking care of each other when sick, worrying over college expenses, the cost of braces, walking the dogs, etc? You know those things that families do?
You know very well what behavior. Don't play dumb!
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Seymour, CT
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You know very well what behavior. Don't play dumb!
Well I don't, please elaborate!
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:15 PM
 
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Isn't that what lesbians and gays are doing?

What was meant by the previous poster's comment (which you totally missed), is that children need both male and female roll models or influences in their lives, and to make the claim that two females or two males can be everything a child needs is ridiculous on it's face. Men and women model different qualities to children. Both are important to child development.
Children are not raised in a vacuum. They have male and female teacher, coaches, family members. Children have both male and female influences in their lives every day.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:16 PM
 
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We can and do have children using the same means as many heterosexuals.
Yes, unfortunately, to the detriment of the child. It should be outlawed. Screw up their minds at such a young age! It should be considered child abuse and endangerment.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:19 PM
 
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Isn't that what lesbians and gays are doing?

What was meant by the previous poster's comment (which you totally missed), is that children need both male and female roll models or influences in their lives, and to make the claim that two females or two males can be everything a child needs is ridiculous on it's face. Men and women model different qualities to children. Both are important to child development.
"is that children need both male and female roll models or influences in their lives"
Of course having a 'Good' mom and dad is ideal, even though many turn out fine with single moms and to a lessor extent single dads.

Most of the people that act if dads are disposable either had dads that were absent, took off, or abused and molested them. To those that were raised in this environment a dad would not be desirable from their POV. They could not think otherwise.

For the majority of us that had 'Good' Dads and moms we know their value.
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