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Old 11-07-2014, 04:20 PM
 
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You know very well what behavior. Don't play dumb!
Is the sex act the only thing involved in your marriage? Because, honestly, it is only a small fraction of my life spent having sex. I spend more time sleeping than having sex. I spend more time walking my dog than having sex. I spend more time helping with homework than having sex. I spend more time cooking than having sex. Why is it when people mention marriage you automatically think of sex? I don't go to weddings and think about what position the couple is going to be having sex in. I think about how happy they are, and their future together. Maybe I'm just not as perverted as you are.

 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:22 PM
 
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Yes, unfortunately, to the detriment of the child. It should be outlawed. Screw up their minds at such a young age! It should be considered child abuse and endangerment.
Really? How have I messed up my children? One in the Navy, one on a full ride scholarship, and one straight A student? All hetero as far as we know. One married, one in a long term relationship, and one with a kiddy crush. So please tell me how I screwed them up.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:22 PM
 
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Children are not raised in a vacuum. They have male and female teacher, coaches, family members. Children have both male and female influences in their lives every day.
While I am fine with children being raised by 2 moms or two dads, male coaches, teachers and family members are not the same as having a dad in your life.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:24 PM
 
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Really? How have I messed up my children? One in the Navy, one on a full ride scholarship, and one straight A student? All hetero as far as we know. One married, one in a long term relationship, and one with a kiddy crush. So please tell me how I screwed them up.
You got lesbian all over them. Isn't that screwed up enough?
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:28 PM
 
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While I am fine with children being raised by 2 moms or two dads, male coaches, teachers and family members are not the same as having a dad in your life.
Please explain what a male and a female do when it comes to parenting. What is the dad role and what is the mom role. Why does having a penis make a male more able to do those things? Why does the lack of a penis make a female not able to do those things?


I had a great mom and dad. My dad told me about my period because my mom was too shy to discuss such things. He also took me fishing and taught me to shoot. I can and do all of those with my children. I even managed to teach 2 boys how to pee standing up, and how to treat a lady. All while being a female.

Please explain what role I can not fill because of my sex.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:33 PM
 
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Please explain what a male and a female do when it comes to parenting. What is the dad role and what is the mom role. Why does having a penis make a male more able to do those things? Why does the lack of a penis make a female not able to do those things?


I had a great mom and dad. My dad told me about my period because my mom was too shy to discuss such things. He also took me fishing and taught me to shoot. I can and do all of those with my children. I even managed to teach 2 boys how to pee standing up, and how to treat a lady. All while being a female.

Please explain what role I can not fill because of my sex.
You can't instill a sense of manhood in your son since you can't shower with him and expose him to your large penis:

"Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."

- James Dobson

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Old 11-07-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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You're can't instill a sense of manhood in your son by showering with him and exposing him to your large penis:

"Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."

- James Dobson

Again, If you are parenting with your genitals, you are doing it wrong.
But maybe that is why I'm a lesbian, my mom never showered with me.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:39 PM
 
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Hypothetical for you.......

if Loving v Virginia had been about two white men wanting to marry, do you believe the SC would have struck down a law limiting marriage to woman and man ?
In 1967, no I don't think they would have. In 2015, I think they will. A lot happened in the intervening years.

In terms of society, I don't think it's an overstatement to say that there has been a sea change in terms of recognizing the dignity and humanity of gay people.

In terms of jurisprudence, the Court, led by Justices Kennedy, Ginsberg, Souter, Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan, Stevens, and O'Connor, has undergone a major shift in its view of laws that single out and separate gay people from the rest of America. Lower courts have caught those signals and, after Windsor, rapidly took the gay marriage step (until now with the 6th Circuit).

I expect the Supreme Court to go the same direction.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:40 PM
 
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You gotta love that. Put human rights up to a popular vote! Go democracy! U! S! A! U! S! A!
Are you complaining about democracy? Because most people who support gay marriage on every other issue are practical democracy worshipers. Basically, they love democracy as long as it means they are getting what they want.

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Marriage has limits.

Marriage is discrimination.

Hard to fathom in the we are all equal fantasy land Americans have fooled themselves into believing.
This is it. Marriage has limits, marriage has always had limits. Pretty much all of these people crying for same-sex marriage are still strongly opposed to polygamy. For that matter, they have no interest in lowering the age requirements, or allowing cousins to marry. Hell the bible says its perfectly fine for uncles and nieces to marry(which obviously was common in the past). But who wants to lift that restriction?

Prohibited Marriages - Marriage


Just a bunch of hypocrites who "want what they want". They could really care less how they get it.


The irony is that, they think "democracy is wrong" on this issue. So they are trying to get the restrictions to same-sex marriage struck down as "unconstitutional", based on a 150 year-old amendment.


Everyone who isn't a complete moron knows that the 14th amendment was never intended to prohibit the states from regulating marriage in the way they already do. These restrictions aren't "new laws", they were on the books prior to the 14th amendment even being passed. There is no way the 14th amendment would have been passed if anyone in America honestly believed that it would have granted the right to marriage to homosexuals, all the way back in 1868.

Thus if the prohibitions are struck down, the reality is that it was the consequence of the equivalent of the federal courts "voting" to change the meaning of the constitution. Because it cannot possibly be what was intended by the people who wrote or ratified that amendment.

Basically what these morons want is "judicial democracy" instead of citizen democracy. These morons want "tyranny of the elite". They are crying for an oligarchy of nine life-termed men to give them what they want, because they cannot stand democracy.

They are unfit for it, and don't deserve it.
 
Old 11-07-2014, 04:42 PM
 
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Myth 1Myth 2
Isn't that what lesbians and gays are doing?

What was meant by the previous poster's comment (which you totally missed), is that children need both male and female roll models or influences in their lives, and to make the claim that two females or two males can be everything a child needs is ridiculous on it's face. Men and women model different qualities to children. Both are important to child development.

Yes, however one does not need a Mother or a Father to have role models. Children will find male or female influences in their lives regardless.
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