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Old 11-29-2014, 05:23 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Can you say VMT?

Obama the Euro socialist purveyor just does what europe does.....

Europe does it and many states are considering it.

The New Way to Tax: Pay Per Mile Driven#.

Europe.....
Vehicle miles traveled tax | Europe Law Information

"The government’s proposal is to tax vehicles at $.07/mile now and $.16/mile by 2018. According to the Transport Ministry, the tax will vary based on the type of car, weight, and where it is driven. A key difference between that plan and ones talked about for here is that the Dutch government wants to use the VMT tax to replace the current sales tax on new cars. Removing this tax seems like a good idea because it allows the government to more accurately tax those who cause the most negative externalities; just because I buy a new Civic does not mean I will pollute as much as my neighbor in his Civic, so I should not have to pay the same taxes."
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Old 11-29-2014, 05:27 PM
 
Location: SC
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Just eliminate the gas tax and the tax incentive on electric and hybrid cars and put a tax on tires.

Tires are rated for x miles of driving, the tax should be the equivalent of the gas tax. Everybody then pays the same amount. Unfortunately, everyone will have to finance tire purchases and sport car owners will be drubbed.

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Old 11-29-2014, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Just eliminate the gas tax and the tax incentive on electric and hybrid cars and put a tax on tires.

Tires are rated for x miles of driving, the tax should be the equivalent of the gas tax. Everybody then pays the same amount. Unfortunately, everyone will have to finance tire purchases and sport car owners will be drubbed.
Unless you buy used tires.
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Old 11-29-2014, 06:35 PM
 
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Unless you buy used tires.
You pay tax on used tired (unless you're in a state without sales tax). My guess is that it could be collected the same way.

Otherwise, it also makes sense to only pay the tax once (the original purchaser). But that's not how taxes generally work.

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Old 11-29-2014, 07:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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My wifes car is Not a Hybrid and get that milage per gallon.....I wonder how much more you paid to get the same mileage?
Then your wife should have to pay the $50?
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Old 11-29-2014, 07:11 PM
 
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Just eliminate the gas tax and the tax incentive on electric and hybrid cars and put a tax on tires.
That is not bad idea because it would certainly eliminate the complexities of a per mile tax.
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Old 11-29-2014, 07:12 PM
 
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Unless you buy used tires.
You'd only have to collect the tax once when they were new otherwise it would be double taxation.
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Old 11-29-2014, 07:33 PM
 
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since electric vehicles need to be plugged into a household outlet, and household outlets are often powered through coal and other means, i'm really not sure how its saving the environment..
bingo!
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Old 11-29-2014, 07:44 PM
 
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Since electric vehicles need to be plugged into a household outlet, and household outlets are often powered through coal and other means, I'm really not sure how its saving the environment..
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bingo!
Many states use mostly natural gas and nuclear fission to generate electricity. Each of which produce less pollutants than petro fuels.

It helps to know where electricity actually comes from before making such a statement. In Texas, for example, only 39% of electricity comes from coal. From many states in the northeast, much much less.

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Old 11-29-2014, 07:49 PM
 
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Many states use mostly natural gas and nuclear fission to generate electricity. Each of which produce less pollutants than petro fuels.
Only Hawaii has any significant percentage of electric generation from oil. Here's the current break down nationally:

What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
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  • Coal 39%
  • Natural Gas 27%
  • Nuclear 19%
  • Hydropower 7%
  • Other Renewable 6%
    • Biomass 1.48%
    • Geothermal 0.41%
    • Solar 0.23%
    • Wind 4.13%
  • Petroleum 1%
  • Other Gases < 1%
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