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Obviously your were not in NYC in the '70s, as it was dangerous.
75 cent smoke? Give me a break- the guy had 30 other arrests. How many arrests do you have?
The drug dealers and prostitutes were out in the open, as the cops did not seem to care. They had real crimes to deal with. Times square (which is fantastic today) was pull of porno shops.
Liberalism kills cities. Witness how well Detroit has done. Were you in San Fran 40 years ago? Apparently not- the city was beautiful then and has now deteriorated after decades of liberal rule.
There was a definite problem in NYC in the 1970's and 80's, panhandlers in front of museums and government buildings, prostitutes, I am glad they cleaned it up but it was not dangerous.
There is a difference between playing dumb and being uninformed. Neither you nor I know what information the grand jury had or what charges they were reviewing the evidence on. Perhaps they were given a murder indictment and couldn't justify a murder charge. Perhaps there is evidence of some kind that we (including you) are unaware of. From all I saw, I believe it is involuntary manslaughter, but I don't even know if that was offered as a charge to the grand jury. Do you? Perhaps the DA simply blew the case, I don't know, do you? Unless you have some mystic power that the rest of us are unaware of, you don't know anything the rest of us don't. But feel free to continue bloviating as per normal course.
It was not murder but as you indicated it should have been at the very least manslaughter, we will never know what the DA presented. Asking an NYC DA who works with NYC police to catch bad people to turn around and indict those same policemen is a flawed system.
The NY State DA has requested to be the responsible party in grand jury proceedings where police are involved, seems reasonable.
There was a definite problem in NYC in the 1970's and 80's, panhandlers in front of museums and government buildings, prostitutes, I am glad they cleaned it up but it was not dangerous.
Wasn't dangerous? They used to find dead people in Central Park every morning.. Robbing and muggings. I remember what it was like.
....I think we will have an interesting little civics experiment play out here. From stop and frisk and broken window policing to...eh, whatever.
I'm sure the criminal element in NYC won't take advantage of this. Crime is down so much, there probably isn't any criminal element left.
They should be fired. If it upsets them that the mayor cares more about his son staying alive then he does about their feelings that's just too damn bad
That would be a good start. As I've said elsewhere, I don't have an issue with protesting, but I do take issue with any protestor doing anything to anyone else whether it's looting, hurting others, or simply stopping people from getting to where they need to go. More people would listen if protestors didn't act like petulant children.
How bout if they point loaded guns at people, would that be ok?
Wasn't dangerous? They used to find dead people in Central Park every morning.. Robbing and muggings. I remember what it was like.
Police should have the job of going after muggers, they should not be tax collectors. The world has a long history of people disliking tax collectors and if you want the police to be respected you get them out of doing that job.
Police should have the job of going after muggers, they should not be tax collectors. The world has a long history of people disliking tax collectors and if you want the police to be respected you get them out of doing that job.
All the protesters should be in front of De Blasio's and Bratton's homes because they're using the cops as in your words, tax collectors.
1. If they aren't working, then the police needs to be downsized. Start firing. It is the largest since the 70s, unionized, 6 weeks off, full benefits, 70k in a country where 60% of youth are living with their parents.
2.Crime is at its lowest ever in NYC right now. Might tell you something
'Neither De B nor Bratton escaped criticism' is the best you can do. They're the ones who ordered the cops to follow a broken windows policy, and still do. The protesters block innocent travelers, attack and vilify the cops, chant nasty, threatening words. Where's similar hostility toward the ones who put the policies in place. Where are the community leaders holding vigils outside the mayor's home or blocking Bratton from getting to work, or protesters chanting they want De B dead.
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